[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for Governor

[james clark]

Wanda, good question

On Feb 16, 2018 3:01 PM, "Nicole Castor" <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com> wrote:

> We're not continuing a cycle of anything. This is the first time the
> candidate endorsement process has been held in such a non-strategic,
> haphazard way, and as an afterthought- ages later than it should have been
> implimented.
>
> At the Sacramento GA, Campaigns & Candidates Working Group had its
> opportunity to reveal an election strategy for this primary but did not.
> There is no endorsement process listed in this strategic plan:
> http://www.cagreens.org/ga/2017-06/strategic-plan
>
> "Identifying the best candidate" at this point is completely subjective
> and there is no standard set on which to base any type of measure for this.
>
> Declaring your candidacy “first” has nothing to do with being the
> candidate most likely to win. Our objective is to win not to have 3
> candidates get 2%. The Green Party of California must identify a slate of
> candidates every election cycle that it is confident will win a Top Two
> primary. Otherwise we are continuing a cycle of stagnation and inaction
> that has proven itself useless in statewide electoral races. If other Green
> candidates want to use their candidacy to raise donations for charities or
> to recruit new members that is their porogitive. That is not the goal of a
> serious statewide electoral party. We need to win state seats with credible
> candidates that have integrity and track records of trustworthiness. Vote
> yes on the endorsement process. It is never to late to make progress and
> turn a political party away from failed strategies.
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:22 AM Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Anthony & Others,
>>
>> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
>> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
>> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
>> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
>>
>> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
>> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
>> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
>> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
>> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
>> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
>> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
>> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
>>
>> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
>> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
>> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
>> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
>> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
>> we really do.
>>
>> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly supports
>> environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not reflect
>> these values in his actions. There are already "progressive" democrats who
>> will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP moving to the
>> right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to a growing
>> population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that we may
>> secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve their
>> interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their values.
>>
>> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this point
>> because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is proposed
>> without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
>>
>> -Nicole Castor
>> GP Sacramento County
>> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need
>>> to all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
>>> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
>>> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
>>> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>>>
>>> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
>>> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the
>>>> voters hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It
>>>> seems to much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote
>>>> for. Not to mention at several candidates already have their names on the
>>>> ballot.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some
>>>>> time to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
>>>>>> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow
>>>>>> through with
>>>>>> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a
>>>>>> process it
>>>>>> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and
>>>>>> division,
>>>>>> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
>>>>>> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
>>>>>> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
>>>>>> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
>>>>>> all the Green candidates running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JMC
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