[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for Governor

Sat Feb 17 20:59:45 PST 2018

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On Feb 17, 2018 8:39 PM, "Gary" <blendogg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have not chimed in on an SGA discussion thread before, but I wanted to
> put my two cents in on this issue.
>
> I'm concerned that if we start endorsing primary candidates at the state
> level, we'll be creating two camps: a Green Party "establishment" choice
> presented to the voters and Party "outsiders". Rather than dividing the
> Party by having "insiders" and "outsiders" in every campaign, we should be
> focusing on unifying the Party...... and getting rid of top two in favor of
> IRV and PR. Otherwise, we'll be following the path of the Dems & Reps.
> Party endorsements can happen at the grassroots if each County Council
> chooses, but the state party should stay out of it.
>
> Gary
>
>
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> *From:* Ann Menasche <aemenasche at gmail.com>
> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <gpca-votes at sfgreens.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for
> Governor
>
> I think given the dilemma we are in with Top Two, we really have no choice
> if we hope to maximize our vote and ensure that we maintain our ballot
> status but to unite around one candidate. In fact, everyone who is to the
> Left of the Dems should all be working together and uniting behind a common
> slate.
> Ann
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Erik <erikrydberg34 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Identifying the strongest candidate is the best strategy to achieve every
> goal we want. The strongest candidate will get 2%, build the party and
> potentially win. Especially if the state party stops hamstringing itself
> and actually participated in these candidates campaigns and sent out email
> blasts and helped raise fund. The “You’re on you own strategy.” is
> unbelievablely lazy and backward. GPCAshould have been publicizing it’s
> Candidates in January. We have to start being “ahead of the curve.” We can
> not afford to continue being behind it.
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:13 AM Anthony Krzywicki <
> chefkrzywicki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In it to win it is the point of getting 2% then, right?   Doesn’t having
> one candidate give us a better opportunity to get that 2% ?
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:22 AM Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Anthony & Others,
> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
> we really do.
> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly supports
> environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not reflect
> these values in his actions. There are already "progressive" democrats who
> will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP moving to the
> right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to a growing
> population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that we may
> secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve their
> interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their values.
> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this point
> because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is proposed
> without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
> -Nicole Castor
> GP Sacramento County
> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need to
> all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>
> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the voters
> hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It seems to
> much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote for. Not to
> mention at several candidates already have their names on the ballot.
>
> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some time
> to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow through
> with
> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a process
> it
> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access
> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and division,
> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>
> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
> all the Green candidates running.
>
> JMC
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