[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Resignation of SGA Delegacy

Tue Feb 20 09:43:53 PST 2018

SGA delegates are appointed/elected by active County Councils. The County
Councils aim to represent the county Greens as "constituents."

The general Green population of a county does not have the power to replace
the GA/SGA delegates, except in the case of a General Meeting.

GA/SGA delegates are the primary decision-making body of the GPCA, so are
voting on internal structure.

http://cagreens.org/ga

http://cagreens.org/sga/2017-2018/delegates
On Feb 20, 2018 9:30 AM, "Lauren Mauricio" <lauren_mauricio at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> If the SGA is supposed to represent the Greens in their county, then it is
> their job to connect with Greens on the local level (their "constituents"
> so to speak).  So campaigning to the SGA is an excellent strategy for
> reaching more Greens across the state.  Unless you think the SGA is not
> doing their job and are disconnected from or not listening to the Greens in
> their county.  In which case, the Greens in their county have the power to
> replace them.  But it makes no sense to fault someone for running a smart
> campaign.  In fact, we should be encouraging it if we want to win.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lauren Mauricio
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of james
> clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:15 AM
> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Resignation of SGA Delegacy
>
> Erik rydberg, what is forward thinking about violating the key value of
> decentralization? Why are fighting so hard for motion that would centralize
> power, and essentially be no better than the Democrats and their super
> delegates?
>
> How is putting greens against each other good? Most candidates I've spoken
> to personally are working together to support each other's campaign, yet
> those in favor of this proposal are running against those greens, including
> lobbying the SGA prior to this proposal.
>
> This has been happening while other candidates that had no idea such a
> proposal would be brought forth at the last minute. As such, they were
> campaigning outside of the delegates circle to aquire the signatures needed
> to be placed on the ballot.
>
> This is yet another problematic issue. Those who lobbied the SGA did so
> knowing about this proposal, and focused on winning over the delegates.
> Those who didn't, went and recruited people to sign their petitions from
> outside of the circle. That means that a vote by delegates would be
> unfairly influenced by those who new ahead of time about this proposal, but
> would not acknowledge the work growing the party other candidates put
> forth, since they were actually campaigning outside of our inner circles.
>
> Stop trying to pit greens against greens, we gain more by working as a
> team and supporting each candidate in their efforts to reach new people.
>
> On Feb 18, 2018 6:13 AM, "Chris" <chris at bestofbroadway.org> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon fellow Greens,
>
> We are presently meeting at Grant High School in Sacramento. I am posting
> this notification of my resignation as a delegate to the SGA body.
>
> Sacramento County has a single vacancy for a FIFTH SGA delegate. At this
> meeting, there are two applicants for that role. In order to accommodate
> both persons, I have waived my SGA delegacy. Our new delegates are Randy
> Hicks and in my former position, Sid Akbar.
>
> I will be remaining as an alternate, and unsubscribe my myself from all
> discussions for the upcoming votes, having said my peace.
>
> I ask for your support on behalf of Veronika Fimbres in your ranked choice
> decisions. It is my wish to see all candidates receive a 2/3 majority
> endorsement. There is confusion as to whether this vote is to endorse or
> select candidates. We need to remember the green pillar of grassroots
> democracy and resist the urge to influence the state's mind.
>
> I have confirmed between Josh, Veronika, and myself that each of our
> campaigns will persist if an endorsement is not granted, and there is no
> foundation for conflict on this issue. I request of the GPCA councils and
> coordinating committee a pledge not to intervene in the campaigns of
> unendorsed candidates until June 6th, after the state primary is over.
>
> We are all greens.
>
> Thank you all for your time. I remain a registered Green candidate for
> Governor and endorse Randy Hicks for Coordinating Committee/Council.
>
> I wish Sid all the best and know his input will be well heard by this
> forum.
>
> God bless,
> Christopher Carlson
> 916.704.0058 <(916)%20704-0058>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Erik <erikrydberg34 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Another huge lack of forward thinking being put forth by people opposing
> this new process of endorsement is that we have smaller corporate-free
> parties wanting our endorsements and even considering running their
> candidates within our party to focus progressive power and limiting the
> fracturing of the progressive vote. We need to form an Independent 3rd
> Party Coalition with other Socialist Parties.
>
> The Green Party is the  only Socialist party big enough to run candidates
> in almost every state. Our allies in other parties need our structure and
> we need their  Numbers and candidates. I’m sure there is some puritanical
> secterian argument on why we should continue to do nothing about that as
> well. I’m tired of watching the Green Party do nothing or very little. We
> need this endorsement process for the future and now so we can bring
> Independents and corporate-free Socialist Parties to the table and
> exponential grow our membership and candidate selection.
>
> The Maine Green-Independent Party hyphenated their name while
> simultaneously opening up those Ballot Access and they are now running the
> most candidates of any state party with 38 compared to GPCA’s 18. They are
> also the first State Green Party in American history being formed in 1984.
> They clearly have some wisdom that we have yet to realize considering that
> our doors are closed to Independents and GPCA has Closed Primaries.
>
> We need a early Independent 3rd Party Primary System that includes
> Socialist Parties and Corporate-Free Independents to focus Power on
> corporate-free  Parties.
>
> If we fail to do this another 3rd Party will like Progressive Independent
> Party or Movement for A People’s Party and we will have missed a golden
> opportunity that we may never recover from.
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM Lauren Mauricio <
> lauren_mauricio at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We really *should* be "pandering" to Berniecrats, though.  I was a
> Berniecrat.  I voted for Jill Stein because someone shared a link in Bernie
> Sanders' Dank Meme Stash (Facebook group) to a website that showed how her
> platform matched Bernie Sanders' by 99%.  So I voted Green and never looked
> back.  If whoever-that-Green-was hadn't pandered to me, I would have voted
> for Hillary Clinton and I would still be a begrudged Democrat to this day.
> I know a lot of people who share the same story.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lauren Mauricio
>
> Tulare County
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of Nicole
> Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 9:26 AM
>
> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for
> Governor
>
>
> Anthony & Others,
>
> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
>
> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
>
> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
> we really do.
>
> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly supports
> environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not reflect
> these values in his actions. There are already "progressive" democrats who
> will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP moving to the
> right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to a growing
> population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that we may
> secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve their
> interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their values.
>
> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this point
> because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is proposed
> without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
>
> -Nicole Castor
> GP Sacramento County
> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need to
> all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>
> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the voters
> hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It seems to
> much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote for. Not to
> mention at several candidates already have their names on the ballot.
>
> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some time
> to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow through
> with
> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a process
> it
> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access
> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and division,
> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>
> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
> all the Green candidates running.
>
> JMC
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