[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Green Party Sex Tape video

Tue Mar 6 18:09:27 PST 2018

The proposal for an endorsement process makes no mention of a vetting
process, or any such conditions of endorsement. Voting for it is voting for
a blank check.

Nobody authorizes content, in a case like this, in a decentralized
organization. Instead, such things are dictated by community pressure &
support, which is why it's also important to have these discussions amongst
us, rather than in private, so that the people involved can weigh in.

-N
On Mar 6, 2018 5:35 PM, "Wanda Jean Lord" <lordwandajean at gmail.com> wrote:

> So… I’ve watched this discussion for a while and must confess I haven’t
> viewed the video – as for me – just the title is offputting enough that I
> wouldn’t want to click on it.  However, me being initially offput by the
> concept doesn’t mean the concept is wrong to create – I simply don’t know –
> and so I also don’t doubt the good intentions of the creators.
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> For me, though, this conversation brings up a question – insofar as the
> GPCA is concerned – who is charged with media production and the vetting of
> content and the authorizing of content that is officially ‘Green’ ?  Who is
> charged with our state ‘messaging’ on an official party basis?
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> I do tend to agree that there needs to be a consistency of messaging for
> the party – and that there is a difference, and a distinction ought to be
> made, between a person speaking as an individual who happens to be a
> registered green voter and running for public office – vs. an endorsed
> candidate of the party.
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> I think this does tie into the need for an endorsement process – as an
> endorsed candidate might then have a level of review and communication
> standards that would come along with endorsement…possibly?
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> Or maybe there are no such checks and balances at all in the state level
> GPCA process?
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> I don’t know any of the answers to these questions – so any kind and
> sincere educational response would be welcomed.
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> *From: *gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of
> Angelica Duenas <angelica at aduenas.org>
> *Reply-To: *GPCA-SGA-Vote discussion <gpca-votes at sfgreens.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 2:53 PM
> *To: *GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <gpca-votes at sfgreens.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Green Party Sex Tape video
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> Sadie,
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> You are sorry that I am unable to see passed what prior indoctrination?
> Care to elaborate? Not sure what you are referring to.
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> If I would have seen this sort campaign ads from a GP Gubernatorial
> candidate with many local GP endorsements I would not have given the GP
> serious consideration. I would have assumed that this is not a serious
> party ready to put up serious candidates.
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> Yes, I am running for Congress in California’s 29th Congressional
> District. Please check out our website: angelica4congress.com
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> I don’t think that I mentioned going back or staying with the Democratic
> Party at all. I am not sure where I would have ended up … maybe PSL? La
> Raza Unida? NPP? Movement for a People’s Party? …. I can only guess.
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> I have not gone back and forth between the Democratic Party, I haven’t
> been active in the ADEM or Kimberly Ellis efforts or anything like that. So
> I don’t appreciate the insinuation that I would have chosen an
> Establishment Party.
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> I have been giving 100% of my efforts to the Green Party. I am involved in
> all levels of the GP. Local club, County, State, National and International
> (GYG) and am now a Candidate.
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> I a mother of 5 children and am doing my best to do it all …I am running a
> mature and focused campaign. And this video makes a mockery of our work.
> Serious activist on the ground are working very hard to establish our Party
> as a serious option.
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> I think that the video missed a perfect opportunity for an informative
> PSA.
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> With a clarification that No there is no sex video … “but now that we have
> your attention let us tell you about the outrageous candidate fees we have
> to pay”….. type thing.  With text and graphics to better illustrate the
> point.
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> I feel that the video itself is offensive to Sex Workers if you ask me. I
> feel that this video is making fun of sex work. Making it appear like Sex
> Work is an act of desperation or last resort – rather than a legitimate
> profession. I believe that sex work should be legalized and that this is
> the only way to protect sex workers from trafficking and slavery.
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> I am running for Congress as a Green candidate. It has not been easy to
> establish myself as a serious candidate as a 3rd party candidate…. And
> this is not making it any easier to be taken seriously.
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> I think that the big message was lost in the shallow presentation. It
> would have been better with a deeper presentation regarding the ridiculous
> filing fees and signature requirements – that are killing 3rd party
> presence on the ballot.  I feel that there was certain potential in this
> video to deliver a real PSA. But it fell short.
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> Angelica Duenas
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> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Sadie Fulton <sadie.fulton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi Angelica,
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> I understand your concern with our promotional video. However, I cannot
> sit quiet and allow you to speak in this way.
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> I am concerned that you have claimed you would have not considered joining
> the Green Party had you seen this video prior. You are running for an
> office position as a green, no? I am disturbed by the fact you would state
> that, due to a video intended to draw attention to hot button topics like
> public funding, you would have turned away from the Green Values and all
> the things the Green Party has done.... and what? Gone back to the
> Democratic Party?
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> While we are here, it is important that I mention, there is absolutely
> nothing “disturbing” “offensive” or “embarrassing” about sex work. By
> stating that this concept is so offensive to you, this is what you are
> stating and I don’t believe that is acceptable.
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> Furthermore, if you listen to the video and script you will hear that this
> video was ALSO intended to draw attention to that fact. As a statement
> against slut shaming, and for the media to draw more attention to things
> that matter. Like Monsanto and Chevron corruption. Which, by the way, is
> something I know MANY greens are actively fighting for.
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> You being offended by the idea of sex work, is unfortunate. I am sorry
> that you were not able to see past your prior indoctrination to see the big
> messages being a video made humorous to get the message out to demographics
> who don’t see the messages we do in our formats.
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> I would implore you to look into this topic.
> https://theestablishment.co/the-green-party-is-failing-
> sex-workers-586329848557
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> Sadie
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> On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 10:57 Angelica Duenas, <angelica at aduenas.org> wrote:
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> I think there was a miscommunication. I had watched the Video...but I have
> not watched Monty Python. Which he mentioned that this was a parody of.
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> On Mar 5, 2018 9:55 AM, "Sadie Fulton" <sadie.fulton at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Angelica,
> When you raised your objection to this video you had not even watched it.
> Have you watched it yet?
> Sadie
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> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 02:05 Angelica Duenas <angelica at aduenas.org> wrote:
>
> Dear SGA delegates
>
> I am very disturbed by the Green Party Sex Tape video (
> https://youtu.be/dxhUS-QQPbg) created and posted by Gubernatorial
> candidate Josh Jones. I find the video offensive and an example of
> extremely poor judgment by someone seeking to represent our party as a
> candidate for our state’s highest office.
>
> I was first introduced face to face with the Green Party at the August
> 2016 Green Party national convention in Houston, which I attended as an
> interested observer, after being turned off by the Democratic Party (as a
> Berniecrat delegate at the Democratic National Convention a week earlier.)
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> At the GPUS convention, I met David Cobb, Laura Wells, Mike Feinstein,
> Jill Stein, Ajamu Baraka, Cornel West (when things looked like he might Go
> Green) and Luis Rodriguez (the GPCA's 2014 Gubernatorial candidate). Based
> upon those interactions, I was impressed by the Green Party, effectively
> going Green the following month. Since then, I have learned a lot about the
> Green Party and its inner workings. I love how there is a high value on
> internal democracy. And I love the GPCA and GPUS platforms – solid.
>
> But I have to say that if I would have come across this Josh Jones Sex
> Tape video in 2016 prior to attending the Green Party convention, I would
> have not given the Green Party a chance at all. The concept and content is
> immature and damaging to our party.  A more thoughtful treatment could have
> been a great PSA moment.  Instead it is an embarrassment, plain and simple.
>
> Given this, for anyone seeking our party’s endorsement, I think the video
> should be deleted from YouTube. But at a minimum, if this embarrassment is
> to remain on-line, the use of the words “Green Party” should be removed
> from the video's title. No one in our party has the right to post something
> like that, misrepresenting our party’s name in that manner.
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> Disappointed in Los Angeles,
> Angelica Dueñas
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> Angelica M. Duenas, M.A.
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> *GPLAC Councilmember*
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> *GYG Delegate*
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> *GPCA CC Member*
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> *GPUS Alternate Delegate*
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