[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Green Party Sex Tape video

james clark faygodrinkit at gmail.com
Sat Mar 17 14:53:26 PDT 2018


This video is embarrassing. Do you want to be taken seriously, or make the
party look like a joke? If it's the latter, this video does a great job of
making you look like the Gary Johnson of the gubernatorial race.. only
thing he was good for this last election was a laugh.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018, 1:44 PM Jesse Townley <jt02 at mindspring.com> wrote:

> It’s cute. It’s G-Rated. It makes a clear point.
>
> It’s intuitive and created as an alternative to the straight factual
> approach to voter outreach.
>
> Look, elections are mostly won by telling a story & connecting emotionally
> to voters and supporters. They are rarely swayed purely by a factual
> enumeration of issues and solutions.
>
> This tells a cute, simple, and sly story that the person-on-the-street
> intuitively gets. They know that celebrities sell their sex tapes for
> millions of dollars- it’s funny and counterintuitive that a politician
> would do the same. Using this storyline makes NO value judgement on the
> underlying practice of filming one’s own consensual intimacy, nor of
> profiting off of this. (It is not always as clear-cut as that last
> sentence, but again, there’s no value judgement in this obvious spoof of
> the situation)
>
> The underlying point- that our politics are being smothered in waves of
> money given to the 2 major parties- is one that the person-on-the-street
> ALSO intuitively gets, no matter what their political orientation.
>
> Whether or not I have any constructive critiques or value-based judgements
> of the piece is irrelevant- to me the important and positive thing about
> this is that some of our hard-working candidates are taking innovative
> story-based approaches to campaigning. This piece does 2 things- it
> connects to the voter with a story-based narrative and delivers a simple
> well-known political message about big money & corruption that highlights
> the GP’s principled stand against those things.
>
> This piece would hold the attention of my non-political friends and
> contacts- and most of my political circle. I cannot remember any previous
> short Green political piece that would appeal to both constituencies.
>
> tl;dr- this is an effective campaign piece. I look forward to more
> story-telling from these and other Green candidates.
>
> Jesse Townley
> Commissioner & former Chair, Berkeley Rent Board
> 3-time elected Green, wrapping up 10 years as an elected official this
> year!
> Former GPCA NC delegate, CCWG member
> Current candidate for GPCA Alternate NC delegate
> Former GPUS SC member, Coordinated Campaign Committee member
> Current GPUS Platform Committee & Dispute Resolution Committee member
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Matthew Leslie <approximateman at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Its amateurish. Dump it.
>
> Matt Leslie
>
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:57 PM, Marnie Glickman <marnie.glickman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Green friends,
>
> I’ve been reading this thread carefully and thinking about the video over
> the past few days.
>
> I am disappointed in the video because it does not appeal to the broad
> base of the CA Green Party. A founding mother of the Green Party of the US,
> Jennifer Ellingston, once said to me that a Green should always recommend a
> constructive idea when she offers a critique.
>
> We should always share at least one positive reason to donate when we
> fundraise. I love comedy, satire and creativity. I have worked for some of
> the funniest, most creative Green in the country. They always add a shred
> of truth, positivity to their presentation.
>
> OK…You made it this far. Let me tell you a little bit more about me.
>
> I am an elected official in San Rafael, CA, 18 miles north of the Golden
> Gate Bride in the Bay Area. I serve on a school board and educate 2,000
> children. I care three children at home with my partner who is also a
> Green. Our budget is limited. If I could, I would donate to every Green
> candidate in the United States.
>
> This video does not motivate me. I feel like it blames me. The clear
> message is that the candidates only made the video because not enough
> people donated. The video feels like a punishment to Greens like me.
>
> Why do I care so much? In Marin County where I live, we have many Green
> elected officials and have a very affluent, very progressive population.
> Our Green elected officials struggled like warriors to get elected. We have
> some networks and sway. I would never share the video with my friends
> because it’s embarrassing and confusing and not positive. The Governor of
> California would never make this kind of video. Everyone I know in Marin
> would agree.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:04 PM, james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's mocking sex workers...
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 10:29 PM F Lambert <boatrocker2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a comedy and a plea for Greens to start supporting GP candidates
>> with money, for God's sake!  Stop being so prudish.  The DemoRATS and
>> the Repulsives have done more harm to this country and the world and are
>> psyching the uninformed and willfully ignorant American people for a
>> confrontation with Russia and the start of World War Three and the
>> destruction of planet Earth.
>>
>> $.14 cents a day per the 100,000 or so registered Greens in California
>> and they wouldn't have to make an unusual plea for $$$ like this. Yes,
>> $51.50 a year (or more, if you're sincere about the Green Party) would give
>> us over five million dollars in our state treasury. Not hardly much to ask
>> for.
>>
>> BTW, I didn't see anything lewd or sexual at all on the above video. Did
>> anybody else?
>>
>> Frank Lambert
>> Monterey County
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 10:33 PM, Angelica Duenas <angelica at aduenas.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear SGA delegates
>>>
>>> I am very disturbed by the Green Party Sex Tape video (
>>> https://youtu.be/dxhUS-QQPbg) created and posted by Gubernatorial
>>> candidate Josh Jones. I find the video offensive and an example of
>>> extremely poor judgment by someone seeking to represent our party as a
>>> candidate for our state’s highest office.
>>>
>>> I was first introduced face to face with the Green Party at the August
>>> 2016 Green Party national convention in Houston, which I attended as an
>>> interested observer, after being turned off by the Democratic Party (as a
>>> Berniecrat delegate at the Democratic National Convention a week earlier.)
>>>
>>> At the GPUS convention, I met David Cobb, Laura Wells, Mike Feinstein,
>>> Jill Stein, Ajamu Baraka, Cornel West (when things looked like he might Go
>>> Green) and Luis Rodriguez (the GPCA's 2014 Gubernatorial candidate). Based
>>> upon those interactions, I was impressed by the Green Party, effectively
>>> going Green the following month. Since then, I have learned a lot about the
>>> Green Party and its inner workings. I love how there is a high value on
>>> internal democracy. And I love the GPCA and GPUS platforms – solid.
>>>
>>> But I have to say that if I would have come across this Josh Jones Sex
>>> Tape video in 2016 prior to attending the Green Party convention, I would
>>> have not given the Green Party a chance at all. The concept and content is
>>> immature and damaging to our party.  A more thoughtful treatment could have
>>> been a great PSA moment.  Instead it is an embarrassment, plain and simple.
>>>
>>> Given this, for anyone seeking our party’s endorsement, I think the
>>> video should be deleted from YouTube. But at a minimum, if this
>>> embarrassment is to remain on-line, the use of the words “Green Party”
>>> should be removed from the video's title. No one in our party has the right
>>> to post something like that, misrepresenting our party’s name in that
>>> manner.
>>>
>>>
>>> Disappointed in Los Angeles,
>>> Angelica Dueñas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> *GPLAC Councilmember*
>>> *GYG Delegate*
>>> *GPCA CC Member*
>>> *GPUS Alternate Delegate*
>>>
>>> *"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one" *- John Lennon
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