<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Nicole it is a waste of time when it is unproductive and divisive. <div>I am copied on this chain and absolutely have no idea what you are complaining about?</div><div>This is waste of my time and I will also delete all correspondence from you. </div><div><br></div><div>Nadia </div><div>Santa Clara county. </div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 31, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Nicole Castor <<a href="mailto:nmcastorsilva@gmail.com">nmcastorsilva@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Bob and others,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Bob is entitled to an opinion, but should never speak on behalf of others.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I have every right to address these issues as they are completely relevant to the upcoming SGA voting period.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The responses I've seen from the so-called "reformers" are weak, non-evidence to excuse their undemocratic and exclusionary practices in handing the previous vote. </p>
<p dir="ltr">For the delegates set to participate, let this be a beacon to any who may have had doubts or opinions which might not align with the GPCA status quo- showing that they are not alone.</p>
<p dir="ltr">-N</p>
<p dir="ltr">PS. It's only a waste of time when it's dissent, huh? Maintaining integrity in our values & purpose is never a waste of time. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 31, 2018 9:10 AM, "Bob Marsh" <<a href="mailto:bob@marsh.name">bob@marsh.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Nicole has wasted enough of my time (and all of yours as well, I'm sure) so I'm giving her a coveted spot on my "delete immediately" email list... poof! gone.<br><br></div>cheers,<br></div>Bob<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Nicole Castor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nmcastorsilva@gmail.com" target="_blank">nmcastorsilva@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">What evidence is this exactly? That someone sent a request? I see no reply explaining a refusal to comply. How are we to know phone calls weren't made or that SGA admins other than Laura weren't contacted separately? It is my understanding that Brian Good was contacted, although this could be wrong.</p>
<p dir="ltr">If there is no actual evidence to indicate the claims which have been stated, the argument should cease.</p>
<p dir="ltr">This still does not address my original concern that the statistics of the SGA vote are not valid. The reason for this is that the voting was not completed since some SGA delegates were cut off three hours prior to the deadline. It makes no difference whether or not these delegates "agreed" to forfeit their votes. The point is- it affects the percentages in the results. Therefore, if someone out there was citing these percentages for whatever reason- the numbers would not be accurate. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I wish i had mentioned it when it happened, but i mention now because we are approaching a new voting period and it is my hope, as it should be for all others as well, that this next vote reflects more integrity in the values we claim to uphold.</p>
<p dir="ltr">-N</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-317960650869882475h5">On Jan 31, 2018 7:36 AM, "Sadie Fulton" <<a href="mailto:sadie.fulton@gmail.com" target="_blank">sadie.fulton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-317960650869882475h5"><span>The attached email is evidence of the new SGA administrators reaching out to the outgoing ones, requesting access and training. This is direct evidence against Nicole's claim that outreach was made in the other direction and refused. </span><div>No response was ever received for this email. If the claim that Tim and Mike were willing to train the new SGA administrators back in September when the request was made is to hold any water henceforth, let's<span style="font-size:13px"> see your evidence. </span></div><div></div><div>Sadie<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: Laura Wells <<a href="mailto:laurawells510@gmail.com" target="_blank">laurawells510@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Wed, Sep 6, 2017, 11:34<br>Subject: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures<br>To: GPCA Coordinating Committee <<a href="mailto:gpca-cc@lists.cagreens.org" target="_blank">gpca-cc@lists.cagreens.org</a>><br>Cc: Tim Laidman <<a href="mailto:timlaidman@yahoo.com" target="_blank">timlaidman@yahoo.com</a>>, Brian Good <<a href="mailto:snug.bug@hotmail.com" target="_blank">snug.bug@hotmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><i>[This list of questions is going especially to long-time SGA Vote Administrators Mike Feinstein and Tim Laidman; to all CC members; and to Brian Good, a newly elected admin who is not on the CC.] </i></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">Hello all </span>—</div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">Now that we have a roster of 5 new SGA Vote Administrators (Victoria Ashley, Brian Good, Laura Wells), and 2 alternates (Eric Brooks and Mike Goldbeck), we need to get trained and up-to-speed.</span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">Please reply with whatever help you can provide. </span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">Here is a starter list of questions that will allow us to create procedures, a process for gaining access to the system, and training needed by the incoming SGA Vote Administrators. The last question applies to almost all of the others: w</span>ho performs each of the tasks now, and who can provide the new admins with access to each of the processes?</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(1) How is the list of SGA delegates updated? </span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><a href="http://sga.cagreens.org/vote/contacts?cid=13" target="_blank">http://sga.cagreens.org/vote/c<wbr>ontacts?cid=13</a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(2) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA email list, <a href="mailto:gpca-votes@cagreens.org" target="_blank">gpca-votes@cagreens.org</a> (or <a href="mailto:gpca-votes@lists.cagreens.org" target="_blank">gpca-votes@lists.cagreens.org</a>)<wbr>?</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(3) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA voting pages/voting system? </span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(4) How do proposal pages get published on the website?</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(5) How do candidate lists get published on the website? How do candidate applications/bios get published and updated?</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(6) How are the SGA announcements set up? Announcements include the beginning of the discussion and voting periods, the upcoming end of the voting period, and the ending of the voting period.</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(7) How are the results announced for yes/no votes and for ranked choice votes?</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(8) Who does each of the above, and who can provide the new admins with access to each of the above?</span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">(9) What else should be included on this list of questions?</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">NOTE that in researching the GP-US voting system, it appears that “Vote Administrators” are called “Floor Managers” and the job rotates among the Steering Committee members, with some duties performed by the Secretary of the Steering Committee. The system was described as a process of filling out (“plugging in”) the software forms online: checking boxes for kind of vote, discussion period, listing candidates; and pasting in proposals, background, resources required, references. It’s possible that the CA system, which apparently was originally based on the same system as the national, may have become more complicated over the years, but still do-able by people who are not necessarily highly technical.</span></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:17px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">Thank you all.</span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">Laura Wells</span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px">CC member and one of the newly-elected SGA Vote Administrators</span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div><div><span style="letter-spacing:0.0px"><br></span></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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