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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Eric,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I was raised with the saying that “some people like to talk just to hear their heads rattle”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Please take the same action for me and remove me from this email list for the same reasons Nadia is pointing out. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thank you </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"'>☺</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Wanda<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'>gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org> on behalf of <nnnumber40@gmail.com><br><b>Reply-To: </b>GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, February 5, 2018 at 7:49 AM<br><b>To: </b>GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org><br><b>Cc: </b>Nadia Nouri <nnnumber1@yahoo.com><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Treating Each Other With Respect (was Re: SGA Vote Administrator procedures)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailOriginalBody">Hi Eric<o:p></o:p></a></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Then seems like this is not a forum for me and a waste of my time reading f finger pointing, divisive and pointless emails. Please remove me from the mailing list ASAP <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Nadia <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br>On Feb 5, 2018, at 1:47 AM, Eric Brooks <</span><a href="mailto:brookse32@hotmail.com"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>brookse32@hotmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi Nadia, all,<br><br>I totally understand an empathize with your frustration, but it is also very important to remember that the Green Party has very good and strong Rules of Decorum for interaction on our email lists – and that even when someone violates those rules, it is both not ok, and makes the problem worse, to respond in a way that also violates them. Particularly important are the rules against targeting others with personal insults and demonization.<br><br>I’ll post a follow-up email in just a bit with the links to our Green Party email Codes of Conduct and SGA email list rules so that everyone has those to read, reference, and respect.<br><br>thanks<br><br>Eric Brooks<br>SGA Vote Admin</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> gpca-votes [</span></span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>mailto:gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b></span></span><a href="mailto:nnnumber40@gmail.com"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>nnnumber40@gmail.com</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span></span><a href="mailto:bob@marsh.name"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>bob@marsh.name</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>; GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <</span></span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>gpca-votes@sfgreens.org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] [Gpca-votes] Fwd: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Me too Bob, people please stop wasting all our times. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Read your emails. It is your responsibility to read your emails and respond. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Enough dividing. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Nadia <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br>On Jan 31, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Bob Marsh <</span><a href="mailto:bob@marsh.name"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>bob@marsh.name</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Nicole has wasted enough of my time (and all of yours as well, I'm sure) so I'm giving her a coveted spot on my "delete immediately" email list... poof! gone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Nicole Castor <</span><a href="mailto:nmcastorsilva@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>nmcastorsilva@gmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>What evidence is this exactly? That someone sent a request? I see no reply explaining a refusal to comply. How are we to know phone calls weren't made or that SGA admins other than Laura weren't contacted separately? It is my understanding that Brian Good was contacted, although this could be wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>If there is no actual evidence to indicate the claims which have been stated, the argument should cease.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>This still does not address my original concern that the statistics of the SGA vote are not valid. The reason for this is that the voting was not completed since some SGA delegates were cut off three hours prior to the deadline. It makes no difference whether or not these delegates "agreed" to forfeit their votes. The point is- it affects the percentages in the results. Therefore, if someone out there was citing these percentages for whatever reason- the numbers would not be accurate. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I wish i had mentioned it when it happened, but i mention now because we are approaching a new voting period and it is my hope, as it should be for all others as well, that this next vote reflects more integrity in the values we claim to uphold.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>-N<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Jan 31, 2018 7:36 AM, "Sadie Fulton" <</span><a href="mailto:sadie.fulton@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>sadie.fulton@gmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The attached email is evidence of the new SGA administrators reaching out to the outgoing ones, requesting access and training. This is direct evidence against Nicole's claim that outreach was made in the other direction and refused. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>No response was ever received for this email. If the claim that Tim and Mike were willing to train the new SGA administrators back in September when the request was made is to hold any water henceforth, let's</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> see your evidence. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Sadie<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: Laura Wells <</span><a href="mailto:laurawells510@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>laurawells510@gmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>><br>Date: Wed, Sep 6, 2017, 11:34<br>Subject: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures<br>To: GPCA Coordinating Committee <</span><a href="mailto:gpca-cc@lists.cagreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>gpca-cc@lists.cagreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>><br>Cc: Tim Laidman <</span><a href="mailto:timlaidman@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>timlaidman@yahoo.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>>, Brian Good <</span><a href="mailto:snug.bug@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>snug.bug@hotmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><i>[This list of questions is going especially to long-time SGA Vote Administrators Mike Feinstein and Tim Laidman; to all CC members; and to Brian Good, a newly elected admin who is not on the CC.] </i><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Hello all —<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Now that we have a roster of 5 new SGA Vote Administrators (Victoria Ashley, Brian Good, Laura Wells), and 2 alternates (Eric Brooks and Mike Goldbeck), we need to get trained and up-to-speed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Please reply with whatever help you can provide. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Here is a starter list of questions that will allow us to create procedures, a process for gaining access to the system, and training needed by the incoming SGA Vote Administrators. The last question applies to almost all of the others: who performs each of the tasks now, and who can provide the new admins with access to each of the processes?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(1) How is the list of SGA delegates updated? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href="http://sga.cagreens.org/vote/contacts?cid=13" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>http://sga.cagreens.org/vote/contacts?cid=13</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(2) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA email list, </span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes@cagreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>gpca-votes@cagreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> (or </span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes@lists.cagreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>gpca-votes@lists.cagreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(3) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA voting pages/voting system? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(4) How do proposal pages get published on the website?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(5) How do candidate lists get published on the website? How do candidate applications/bios get published and updated?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(6) How are the SGA announcements set up? Announcements include the beginning of the discussion and voting periods, the upcoming end of the voting period, and the ending of the voting period.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(7) How are the results announced for yes/no votes and for ranked choice votes?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(8) Who does each of the above, and who can provide the new admins with access to each of the above?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>(9) What else should be included on this list of questions?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>NOTE that in researching the GP-US voting system, it appears that “Vote Administrators” are called “Floor Managers” and the job rotates among the Steering Committee members, with some duties performed by the Secretary of the Steering Committee. The system was described as a process of filling out (“plugging in”) the software forms online: checking boxes for kind of vote, discussion period, listing candidates; and pasting in proposals, background, resources required, references. It’s possible that the CA system, which apparently was originally based on the same system as the national, may have become more complicated over the years, but still do-able by people who are not necessarily highly technical.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Thank you all.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Laura Wells<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>CC member and one of the newly-elected SGA Vote Administrators<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> 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