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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>This conversation makes me wonder, in a sincere and thoughtful way, why we have an SGA? It appears to be an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy that distances Green decision making from the broadest and most direct community participation & consensus. Do all other state green parties have this level of ‘decision making bodies’ ? Is it a requirement of state green party operations mandated from the national party or is it only the way CA does things – because that’s the way CA does things? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any enlightenment on this question – especially if it is somehow mandated by Green guidance/requirements outside the state of CA – would be very appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org> on behalf of Chris <chris@bestofbroadway.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, February 16, 2018 at 9:48 AM<br><b>To: </b>GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for Governor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailOriginalBody">Thank you Anthony,<o:p></o:p></a></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>"splitting the base."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>This keeps coming up. There were already candidates in these races.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Those same original candidates are less concerned that the vote will split than the people who entered the races later to split the base. It is a "baseless" threat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>"Reach out and get votes"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Broadens the base. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The June 5 primary is an open primary, which means we aren't competing for green share as much as competing for major party and NPP voters. If every candidate is allowed to proceed with endorsement, each candidate can perform the outreach you profess only one candidate is capable of, to their respective abilities, tripling our return and broadening the base.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>"Should be started 6 months ago."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I agree, which is why it is foolish to consider invalidating the labor of three candidates in messaging for the party. If the vote were to proceed with an "endorse all," which it will not, I would support it more. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Chris <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br>On Feb 16, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Anthony Krzywicki <</span><a href="mailto:chefkrzywicki@gmail.com"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>chefkrzywicki@gmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base. We need to all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats. Otherwise were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point? We have a such a small percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we could already be backing a unified candidate.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <</span><a href="mailto:faygodrinkit@gmail.com"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>faygodrinkit@gmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>One major concern is that this process would take power out of the voters hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It seems to much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote for. Not to mention at several candidates already have their names on the ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <</span><a href="mailto:victronix01@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>victronix01@gmail.com</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some time to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <</span><a href="mailto:jmc@sfgreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>jmc@sfgreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:<br>> I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow through with<br>> this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a process it<br>> should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access<br>> goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and division,<br>> and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.<br><br>Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot? If<br>that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in<br>and who is out. I agree that we should not make an endorsement before<br>then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about<br>all the Green candidates running.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=m-9091915064278639038m-4376993840253137900hoenzb>JMC</span><br><span class=m-9091915064278639038m-4376993840253137900hoenzb>--</span><br><span class=m-9091915064278639038m-4376993840253137900hoenzb>John-Marc Chandonia (</span></span></span><a href="mailto:jmc@sfgreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>jmc@sfgreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span class=m-9091915064278639038m-4376993840253137900hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'>)</span></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='color:#888888'><br></span></span><a href="http://sfgreens.org/" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>http://sfgreens.org/</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='color:#888888'><br></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br>--<br>gpca-votes mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>gpca-votes@sfgreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br></span><a href="https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br>--<br>gpca-votes mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>gpca-votes@sfgreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br></span><a href="https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>--<br>gpca-votes mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>gpca-votes@sfgreens.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br></span><a href="https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"georgia",serif'>Anthony J. Krzywicki,</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><i><span style='font-family:"georgia",serif'><br>Co-coordinator GROW- Green Party California<br>Co-coordinator Ventura County Green Party County Council</span></i></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href="http://www.venturacountygreenparty.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"georgia",serif'>www.venturacountygreenparty.com</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href="mailto:greenpartyvc@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"georgia",serif'>greenpartyvc@gmail.com</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"georgia",serif'>instagram: greenpartyvcc</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"georgia",serif'>facebook group: Ventura Green Party</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"georgia",serif'>facebook group: Ventura County Green Party</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"georgia",serif'>It is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. 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