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Assembly, and that is unlikely to ever happen, unless a candidate has done something really bad that is criminal and/or deeply violates the 10 key values of the party.<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 16, 2018 6:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sean Bohac <<a href="mailto:sbohac@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sbohac@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes <<a href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org" target="_blank">gpca-votes@sfgreens.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for Governor<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is an excellent point. I am concerned that three Green candidates will officially become "spoilers" lacking official party endorsement, and The state party may take aggressive action to decertify or expel these spoilers by invalidating
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<p class="MsoNormal">It does invalidate the efforts of three statewide candidates. It does intervene in grassroots democracy to affect the wills of other greens, which violates decentralization principles as well.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Why are we afraid to trust inactive, registered green voters to make a choice so that we are "advising" them? It shows lack of faith.<u></u><u></u></p>
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endorse. The ultimate decision goes to those folks who vote, but for the vast majority of voters who dont do much homework its a way to guide Greens to a candidate who is likely the strongest and will be able to garner the percentages of the vote that help
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we make here will be functionally irrelevant to upwards of 95% of the voters casting a ballot for one of our candidates (or any of them), as they'll never hear about it. The "resources" that the state party can provide to any endorsed candidate are almost
non-existent. City Council candidates in my town regularly raise upwards of $20,000 on an individual basis; that exceeds what I believe was our entire budget for the state last year, approaches our entire "aspirational" / Plan A budget for this year (based
on what I recall seeing), and certainly exceeds whatever financial support we can provide to a candidate. It's unlikely that we'll even be able to afford anything as basic as sending a postcard listing our endorsements to every registered Green in the state;
even if we could somehow manage that, said voters would still only amount to a small percentage of the total vote for our candidates. Along those lines, even spreading our endorsements via email and social media will still only reach a tiny percentage of even
the registered Greens, let alone the vast mass of Democrats, No Party Preference voters, and others who might be inclined to vote for our candidates.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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the ballot, we've often run well above that, and it seems to me that we'd have an argument for having exceeded the threshold even if we had two candidates running on our party line, each of whom only gained about 1% of the vote, for any such office...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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want to effectively delegitimize particular candidates seeking to run for office within our party, and use the "spoiler" argument against our own candidates?!? When we had primaries, decisions about who should run were left up to registered Greens voting in
our primary, except in extreme cases. Then we coalesced (generally) around whoever the voters picked, and moved on. It seems to me that the more folks running, and the broader the representation and point of view they provide, the BETTER OFF the party is,
as that will draw MORE voters to us, and in turn, for races where we have less or only one candidate, lead to more votes for those folks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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we could have multiple candidates running statewide campaigns? The Democrats aren't concerned about splitting their votes, why should we be? I just don't see what purpose this process serves; folks supporting an unendorsed candidate aren't going to quit doing
so based on how the SGA votes, and all it is going to do is provoke a meta discussion about the process at the local level, and lead to rumors about power plays and backroom deals, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">I agree that this process should have been started at least six months ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work to get on the ballot and it is
likely there will be more than one Green candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point, actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access.
In addition, Green Party benefits by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win it,"
because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which compromises what the party actually
stands for. Of course such pandering has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than we really do.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly supports environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not reflect these values in his actions.
There are already "progressive" democrats who will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP moving to the right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to a growing population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that
we may secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve their interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their values.
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independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats. Otherwise were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point? We have a such a small percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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> should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access<br>
> goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and division,<br>
> and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.<br>
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then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about<br>
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