<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>Bob,
<div>You bring up an interesting scenario. Yes, Nader ran for GPUS Presidential candidate (not a GPCA decision) in 1996 and 2000.</div>
<div>In 2004 he was so self assured he would again get the nomination that he did not participate in preliminary procedures (I know I'm probably over simplifying) and David Cobb, who had followed the procedures, got the party's nomination. Nader then bolted the party and ran an independent campaign, taking Camejo with him. This probably diluted/split Green Party voters and campaign energy. I wonder if he would have done the same thing had he been a registered Green. </div>
<div>But, again, that was a national party decision to run him as our candidate and the decision before us here is a statewide decision, in the context of operating under the top two jungle primary with already dwindling registration numbers. </div>
<div>Linda <br>
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From: Bob Marsh <bob.marshg@gmail.com><br>
To: GPCA-SGA-Vote discussion <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org>; Steve Breedlove <srbreedlove@gmail.com><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2018 7:48 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discussion On Items ID 144, 146, 148, 150, 151, 152 & 155: Endorsing Non-Green Candidates For Statewide Office<br>
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<div>FYI - the GP Alameda County has had for many years a policy of
never endorsing Demopublican or Republicrat candidates for
partisan office. However, we have many times endorsed Independent
or PF candidates when we did not have a Green candidate in the
race. I can only remember one instance of endorsing someone over
a Green, and that was the very unusual situation of a guy in
So.Cal who was a sort of "fake Green", i.e. he had been PF and
changed to Green just to run for state office.<br>
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<div>It seems reasonable to me for GPCA to endorse Independents or
PFers, in some cases. In other words, I don't see any point in
being dogmatic about demanding Green registration. Didn't most of
y'all support Ralph Nader, who has never been a Green Party
member?</div>
<div>cheers,<br>
BobM<br>
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<div class="aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 3/26/18 14:35, Steve Breedlove
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Linda and Jane. The idea is to form alliances.
Greens have an image problem and I know a lot of movers and
shakers who are choosing independent or Socialist Alternative or
other. The idea is that to break the two party dictatorship we
have to form alliances. It is a great symbolic act to endorse a
P&F etc. I would rather endorse a qualified candidate in
another left party than some of the candidate that run as
Greens, whether based on actual policy or on perception of
viability.
<div dir="auto">I think the concern that people won't run green
is unfounded. People already don't wanna run green which is
why many progressive candidates are running Dem with support
of more moderate progressive groups like justice dems abd Our
Rev and brand new congress.</div>
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<div class="aolmail_gmail_quote">On Mar 26, 2018 2:12 PM, "Jane
Jarlsberg" <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:jjarlsberg@gmail.com">jjarlsberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="aolmail_gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I agree with <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Linda
Piera-Avila, and no one asked me to write my opinion
either!! i have my own mind on these issues, but
sometimes someone else is
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">better</span>
able to articulate my thoughts for me!! peace, Jane
Jarlsberg</span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 10:58
PM, Linda Piera-Avila <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:lindap_a@verizon.net">lindap_a@verizon.net</a>></span>
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<div dir="auto">If a candidate is supportive of our
values and doesn’t take corporate donations, that
candidate should run as a Green! We will dilute
the incentive we have to offer potential recruits
if 155 passes. It’s hard enough to vet people who
ARE in the Green Party before endorsing them, this
will make it even harder if they are not even in
our party and this could leave us open to those
who would co-opt our ballot line either for their
own selfish purposes or worse, to discredit the
Green Party. We are a small party - we need to
retain our sense as a distinct political party and
not give away the store and possibly lose
ourselves in the process.
<div>Linda Piera-Avila</div>
<div>Santa Monica</div>
<div>PS No one asked me to write this. I am very
concerned about this proposal on my own! </div>
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On Mar 25, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Eric Brooks
<<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:brookse32@hotmail.com">brookse32@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi
all,<br>
<br>
In response to Michael Feinstein’s
previous emails stating the
opinion that items 144, 146, 148,
150, 151, and 152 are not
correctly on our SGA ballot,
Michael’s statements are
incorrect.<br>
<br>
Because Item 155 (see below) would
enable us to endorse non-Green
candidates for statewide office,
as long as they do not take
corporate donations and are
supportive to the Green Party’s
values and platform, items 144
through 152 all are properly on
our SGA ballot and votes for those
candidates will be counted if item
155 passes.<br>
<br>
I hope this clears up any
confusion.<br>
<br>
Eric Brooks<br>
SGA Vote Administrator</span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
gpca-votes [<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org">mailto:gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>GPCA Votes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February
15, 2018 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org">gpca-votes@sfgreens.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GPCA-SGA-Votes]
Discuss ID 155: Endorsement Policy
Amendment: GPCA Endorsements for
General Election Candidates</span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Please
send your discussion
comments to <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gpca-votes@sfgreens.org"><span style="color:#1155cc">gpca-</span></a><a href="mailto:votes@sfgreens.org">votes@sfgreens.org</a></span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"></span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Discussion
has begun for the following
GPCA SGA ranked choice vote:</span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Ranked Choice
Vote ID #155</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Ranked Choice
Vote <b>Endorsement Policy
Amendment: GPCA Endorsements
for General Election
Candidates</b></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Ranked Choice
Vote Administrators: Victoria
Ashley, Brian Good, Laura Wells,
Eric Brooks, Mike Goldbeck</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Discussion
02/12/2018 - 03/25/2018</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Voting
03/26/2018 - 04/01/2018</div>
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<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Voting ends
at Midnight Pacific Time</div>
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<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><b>Background</b> </div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">The Green
Party of California is currently
prohibited from endorsing
candidates who have good Green
values and who take no corporate
money: the GPCA needs
visibility, in a positive way,
and putting our name on
endorsement lists of good
candidates is one way to get the
Green Party name in the public
eye. The GPCA wants to help
voters vote for good candidates,
even in races where we have no
candidate. For instance, the
Peace and Freedom Party can and
does endorse Green Party
candidates in state and federal
races, but the GPCA is
prohibited from endorsing Peace
and Freedom candidates. The
GPCA currently cannot endorse
candidates with No Party
Preference or any other voter
registration, even when we have
no candidate running in the
race. The GPCA cannot help
voters differentiate between
good candidates who are aligned
with Green values and take no
corporate money and bad
candidates (who may speak well)
from the two-party system. The
current endorsement policy is
confusing: county parties are
not prohibited from endorsing
candidates who are not Green,
but the state party is; in
addition, it precludes a
possible endorsement even in the
face of grassroots interest.
The current endorsement policy
was promulgated in the
pre-Top-Two era, and, if left
unreformed, will further hobble
party-building efforts in
California.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Changing the
endorsement policy would advance
the party’s attempts to
implement Proportional
Representation so that we can
have a multi-party system and
not a two-party system. By
expanding our endorsement
options, we will demonstrate
that we will work in coalitions
and will endorse candidates who
have green values, but who
choose other political party
affiliations. As it stands,
people who want to “throw their
hat in the ring” and yet who
have no track record with the
Green Party or allied
organizations are able to
register Green and use our
ballot line, and get an
automatic advantage in the
endorsement process, even though
they may not be the best
candidate. Moreover, given that
there are many public
perceptions over which Greens
have very little control, such
as being marginalized or cast as
“spoilers” or “third-party”
candidates who “can’t win,” the
endorsement area is one we can
control. We can avoid
marginalizing ourselves as
people who are only interested
in the label “Green Party,” not
the green values that we share
with millions of ordinary folks
in the nation and certainly in
California. </div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Furthermore,
it is common advice in social
media, for example (and even in
life), that if you want likes,
followers and friends, you’ve
got to like, follow and friend
others, as long as you stay true
to your values. We need to
reciprocate and be proactive,
not sit back and wait for
everyone to switch to “team
Green Party,” while we display
an unwelcoming attitude. People
want a new party, but our
current restrictive endorsement
procedures make us look as if we
do not want to be an “umbrella
party” or “big tent” for all
people who are aligned with our
values and stances. It looks
like we want to remain a small,
exclusive “third” party with a
narrow “sectarian” view of how
change happens.</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Accordingly,
we recommend the following
changes to the GPCA Endorsement
Policy.</div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><b>Proposal</b></div>
</div>
<div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">That the
current GPCA Endorsement Policy
be amended as follows:</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">That the
policy be amended from its
current text:</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">GPCA
CANDIDATE ENDORSEMENT POLICY FOR
GENERAL ELECTIONS (approved by
the GPCA General Assembly, June
25, 2006, 43-6-2)</div>
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<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">2. The GPCA
shall not make any endorsements
of General Election candidates
who are not Green Party members.</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">To read as
follow:</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">GPCA
CANDIDATE ENDORSEMENT POLICY FOR
ELECTIONS</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">2. The GPCA
shall not make endorsements of
candidates who accept corporate
campaign contributions or who
belong to any political party
that accepts corporate campaign
contributions.</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Sponsors:
This proposal has been endorsed
and sponsored by the Green Party
of Yolo County.</div>
</div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Full details
will be available at: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://www.sjcgreens.org/sga_vote_bylaw_interpretations">http://www.sjcgreens.org/sga_vote_bylaw_interpretations</a></div>
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