PLEASE READ: Always Put Your Name & Affiliation At The End Of SGA List Emails (was RE: Green Party Sex Tape video)
Hi Nassim, all, Thanks for pointing this out. This is why the GPCA email list rules direct everyone to put their full name and county (or if appropriate a committee or working group affiliation) at the end of all emails so everyone knows who is speaking. This is a big list so please follow that rule to reduce confusion. Eric Brooks SF, CA SGA Vote Admin From: gpca-votes [mailto:gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org] On Behalf Of Nassim Nouri Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 5:08 PM To: GPCA-SGA-Vote discussion <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Green Party Sex Tape video There seems to be a technical issue with this thread. Somehow Nicole responded to Sadie’s question directed to Angelica?! I have seen this happen before on some threads and was wondering if there is a technical problem that mixes up respondents’ identity and/or emails. I know as a technical issue this is not on topic, but if there’s a glitch confusing the identity of SGA members on these threads it needs to be fixed. I assume this is a topic for the list admins? Or should IT investigate? Nassim Nouri Green Party of Santa Clara County ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 5, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva@gmail.com<mailto:nmcastorsilva@gmail.com>> wrote: I had not said anything remotely close to implying sex work is disturbing, offensive, embarrassing, etc. What is disturbing, offensive, embarrassing is that the video seems to be mocking a legitimate occupation, painting it as a sort of "last resort" to stoop to out of desperation in meeting financial goals. Would the video be funny if you replaced sex tape with "taking a job as a receptionist" to pay for filing fees? I had posted an article above, which a similar one is now posted, which illustrates popular sentiment regarding a troubling stance of GP on sex work, and i shared this to demonstrate that we ought to be careful in the impression we give. -N While we are here, it is important that I mention, there is absolutely nothing “disturbing” “offensive” or “embarrassing” about sex work. By stating that this concept is so offensive to you, this is what you are stating and I don’t believe that is acceptable. Furthermore, if you listen to the video and script you will hear that this video was ALSO intended to draw attention to that fact. As a statement against slut shaming, and for the media to draw more attention to things that matter. Like Monsanto and Chevron corruption. Which, by the way, is something I know MANY greens are actively fighting for. You being offended by the idea of sex work, is unfortunate. I am sorry that you were not able to see past your prior indoctrination to see the big messages being a video made humorous to get the message out to demographics who don’t see the messages we do in our formats. I would implore you to look into this topic. https://theestablishment.co/the-green-party-is-failing-sex-workers-586329848... On Mar 5, 2018 1:59 PM, "Sadie Fulton" <sadie.fulton@gmail.com<mailto:sadie.fulton@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Jane. Yes, it did. We have a ways to go still, but many people are seeing it and donating who wouldn't ordinarily do so. On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:33 PM Jane Jarlsberg <jjarlsberg@gmail.com<mailto:jjarlsberg@gmail.com>> wrote: Sadie Fulton, i guess the bottom line on this thread is did this satire help raise funds for your campaigns?! peace, Jane On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Jane Jarlsberg <jjarlsberg@gmail.com<mailto:jjarlsberg@gmail.com>> wrote: i meant to address this question to Sadie Fulton. Jane On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Jane Jarlsberg <jjarlsberg@gmail.com<mailto:jjarlsberg@gmail.com>> wrote: i guess the bottom line on this thread is did this satire help raise funds for your campaigns?! peace, Jane On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Sadie Fulton <sadie.fulton@gmail.com<mailto:sadie.fulton@gmail.com>> wrote: Angelica, When you raised your objection to this video you had not even watched it. Have you watched it yet? Sadie On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 02:05 Angelica Duenas <angelica@aduenas.org<mailto:angelica@aduenas.org>> wrote: Dear SGA delegates I am very disturbed by the Green Party Sex Tape video (https://youtu.be/dxhUS-QQPbg) created and posted by Gubernatorial candidate Josh Jones. I find the video offensive and an example of extremely poor judgment by someone seeking to represent our party as a candidate for our state’s highest office. I was first introduced face to face with the Green Party at the August 2016 Green Party national convention in Houston, which I attended as an interested observer, after being turned off by the Democratic Party (as a Berniecrat delegate at the Democratic National Convention a week earlier.) At the GPUS convention, I met David Cobb, Laura Wells, Mike Feinstein, Jill Stein, Ajamu Baraka, Cornel West (when things looked like he might Go Green) and Luis Rodriguez (the GPCA's 2014 Gubernatorial candidate). Based upon those interactions, I was impressed by the Green Party, effectively going Green the following month. Since then, I have learned a lot about the Green Party and its inner workings. I love how there is a high value on internal democracy. And I love the GPCA and GPUS platforms – solid. But I have to say that if I would have come across this Josh Jones Sex Tape video in 2016 prior to attending the Green Party convention, I would have not given the Green Party a chance at all. The concept and content is immature and damaging to our party. A more thoughtful treatment could have been a great PSA moment. Instead it is an embarrassment, plain and simple. Given this, for anyone seeking our party’s endorsement, I think the video should be deleted from YouTube. But at a minimum, if this embarrassment is to remain on-line, the use of the words “Green Party” should be removed from the video's title. No one in our party has the right to post something like that, misrepresenting our party’s name in that manner. Disappointed in Los Angeles, Angelica Dueñas -- Angelica M. 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Roger-that! James Young Orange County CA <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:12 PM, Eric Brooks <brookse32@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nassim, all,
Thanks for pointing this out.
This is why the GPCA email list rules direct everyone to put their full name and county (or if appropriate a committee or working group affiliation) at the end of all emails so everyone knows who is speaking.
This is a big list so please follow that rule to reduce confusion.
Eric Brooks SF, CA
SGA Vote Admin
*From:* gpca-votes [mailto:gpca-votes-bounces@sfgreens.org] *On Behalf Of *Nassim Nouri *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2018 5:08 PM *To:* GPCA-SGA-Vote discussion <gpca-votes@sfgreens.org> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Green Party Sex Tape video
There seems to be a technical issue with this thread.
Somehow Nicole responded to Sadie’s question directed to Angelica?!
I have seen this happen before on some threads and was wondering if there is a technical problem that mixes up respondents’ identity and/or emails.
I know as a technical issue this is not on topic, but if there’s a glitch confusing the identity of SGA members on these threads it needs to be fixed.
I assume this is a topic for the list admins? Or should IT investigate?
Nassim Nouri
Green Party of Santa Clara County ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Mar 5, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva@gmail.com> wrote:
I had not said anything remotely close to implying sex work is disturbing, offensive, embarrassing, etc.
What is disturbing, offensive, embarrassing is that the video seems to be mocking a legitimate occupation, painting it as a sort of "last resort" to stoop to out of desperation in meeting financial goals. Would the video be funny if you replaced sex tape with "taking a job as a receptionist" to pay for filing fees?
I had posted an article above, which a similar one is now posted, which illustrates popular sentiment regarding a troubling stance of GP on sex work, and i shared this to demonstrate that we ought to be careful in the impression we give.
-N
While we are here, it is important that I mention, there is absolutely nothing “disturbing” “offensive” or “embarrassing” about sex work. By stating that this concept is so offensive to you, this is what you are stating and I don’t believe that is acceptable.
Furthermore, if you listen to the video and script you will hear that this video was ALSO intended to draw attention to that fact. As a statement against slut shaming, and for the media to draw more attention to things that matter. Like Monsanto and Chevron corruption. Which, by the way, is something I know MANY greens are actively fighting for.
You being offended by the idea of sex work, is unfortunate. I am sorry that you were not able to see past your prior indoctrination to see the big messages being a video made humorous to get the message out to demographics who don’t see the messages we do in our formats.
I would implore you to look into this topic. https://theestablishment.co/the-green-party-is-failing- sex-workers-586329848557
On Mar 5, 2018 1:59 PM, "Sadie Fulton" <sadie.fulton@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jane. Yes, it did. We have a ways to go still, but many people are seeing it and donating who wouldn't ordinarily do so.
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:33 PM Jane Jarlsberg <jjarlsberg@gmail.com> wrote:
Sadie Fulton,
i guess the bottom line on this thread is did this satire help raise funds for your campaigns?! peace, Jane
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Jane Jarlsberg <jjarlsberg@gmail.com> wrote:
i meant to address this question to Sadie Fulton. Jane
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Jane Jarlsberg <jjarlsberg@gmail.com> wrote:
i guess the bottom line on this thread is did this satire help raise funds for your campaigns?! peace, Jane
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Sadie Fulton <sadie.fulton@gmail.com> wrote:
Angelica, When you raised your objection to this video you had not even watched it. Have you watched it yet? Sadie
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 02:05 Angelica Duenas <angelica@aduenas.org> wrote:
Dear SGA delegates
I am very disturbed by the Green Party Sex Tape video ( https://youtu.be/dxhUS-QQPbg) created and posted by Gubernatorial candidate Josh Jones. I find the video offensive and an example of extremely poor judgment by someone seeking to represent our party as a candidate for our state’s highest office.
I was first introduced face to face with the Green Party at the August 2016 Green Party national convention in Houston, which I attended as an interested observer, after being turned off by the Democratic Party (as a Berniecrat delegate at the Democratic National Convention a week earlier.)
At the GPUS convention, I met David Cobb, Laura Wells, Mike Feinstein, Jill Stein, Ajamu Baraka, Cornel West (when things looked like he might Go Green) and Luis Rodriguez (the GPCA's 2014 Gubernatorial candidate). Based upon those interactions, I was impressed by the Green Party, effectively going Green the following month. Since then, I have learned a lot about the Green Party and its inner workings. I love how there is a high value on internal democracy. And I love the GPCA and GPUS platforms – solid.
But I have to say that if I would have come across this Josh Jones Sex Tape video in 2016 prior to attending the Green Party convention, I would have not given the Green Party a chance at all. The concept and content is immature and damaging to our party. A more thoughtful treatment could have been a great PSA moment. Instead it is an embarrassment, plain and simple.
Given this, for anyone seeking our party’s endorsement, I think the video should be deleted from YouTube. But at a minimum, if this embarrassment is to remain on-line, the use of the words “Green Party” should be removed from the video's title. No one in our party has the right to post something like that, misrepresenting our party’s name in that manner.
Disappointed in Los Angeles, Angelica Dueñas
--
Angelica M. Duenas, M.A.
*GPLAC Councilmember*
*GYG Delegate*
*GPCA CC Member*
*GPUS Alternate Delegate*
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