Scott- I look forward to working with you, maybe help get us insights in to how goes the solar growth business? I love decentralizing the grid and putting up millions of solar roofs and conservation efforts to disengage as completely as possible Lots of real good jobs can be created that do not hurt and can even help restore the natural environment. I really get a little queasy, though, when I watch PG&E ads tout their huge solar projects in the Southwest. By shipping power through their big, centralized energy lines, big utility companies, motivated by the need to profit get to ship and sell more of their product, at a cost, to energy "consumers". Like they don't own a nuclear power plant and undercut public power and real energy conservation efforts at every turn, including fronting costs for false political ads? But, I digress.... I would like to see energy stop being a consumer good and get free power in to as many hands as cheaply as possible over the longest term. Maybe there is room for large concentrated arrays in the desert, if they are attached to highly energy-intensive production facilities on site, likely mostly automated. But I was involved with a 10-year effort to stop a radioactive waste dump from going in to Ward Valley. I came to learn about how diverse ecosystems work together over eons of time to establish a balance that can be jeopardized by large scale developments. So I am wary of centralist solutions, especially if they get too presumptuous about land use. I look forward to further discussion, and action, Don At 10:41 AM 4/11/2008, Scott Warthin wrote:

From: Scott Kennedy Warthin To: fellow Green Party members of San Francisco

As a reminder of who I am: I'm the 28 yr. old who came in earlier. Born & raised in The City, who is in the last month of training to be a photovoltaic (solar electricity) installer. Currently living with a relative in Marin (and registered Green here temporarily) until I finish the PV course on May 2nd, get an installer job which will allow me to live in The City and FINALLY move back home to San Francisco (@ which time I will become more active with the Greens in SF). My Potential Contributions: I would like to get involved with anything relating to furthering sustainability, the peace movement and, of course, PHOTOVOLTAICS. E-Mail: I suspect alot of stuff has been sent to me that my e-mail has disgarded as spam automatically. I'm not e-mail savy, so if someone could send me a message from <mailto:sustainability@sfgreens.org>sustainability@sfgreens.org of the e-mail addresses which party members might be sending me information on it would be appreciated. (only way i know to unblock e-mails is to know ahead of time which ones to unblock) Thanks, SF Greens.....Hope to be a more active member ASAP

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