For anyone who needs their password, the list page can send you your password by email... just follow the directions at the bottom of the page. Thanks for posting the info on the bike plan; I'll look at this again when I have a chance. JMC ----- Forwarded message from "susan_e_vaughan@juno.com" <susan_e_vaughan@juno.com> ----- From: "susan_e_vaughan@juno.com" <susan_e_vaughan@juno.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 04:12:09 GMT To: jmc@sfgreens.org Subject: Re: [Transpo] [susan_e_vaughan@yahoo.com: letter re. bike plan update, can you post this for more feedback?] Go to the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition, hit current actions, then hit Bike Plan Update in the column on the left and scroll down to Upper Market. The removal of a right turn lane is discussed under "Design" in the body of the explanation for Upper Market. As it is now, vehicles travel down Duboce or ???_____??? to get to the Central Freeway. I can't remember the second street. The original plan for the Central Freeway rebuild did not include a right turn from Market onto the Central Freeway if I got all the testimony I have heard right (August 9, Land Use Committee). You could check with Matt's office. Also, vehicles will be traveling straight from Octavia across Market onto the Central Freeway. JMC, I know I'm subscribed to the transportation list serve, but I can't access it because I don't seem to have a password. When I typed in a password, the response was that I was already subscribed. Can you help? Thanks Sue On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:14:11PM +0000, susan_e_vaughan@juno.com wrote:

In particular, we support the desire of the bicylce coalition to see the prohibition of right turns onto the Central Freeway from Market Street as there is currently a heavily-used bicycle lane that carries bicycle traffic from the Castro, Noe Valley and other neighborhoods into downtown San Francisco along this route.

Can you point to where in the plan this is addressed? I thought I looked through the Market Street part of the plan fairly well, but missed this. I wouldn't support this unless there's no alternative, since I think Upper Market is the major route for cars from west of Twin Peaks: if they couldn't turn right, most would continue to drive downtown until they hit 10th St or 8th St (and then turn right at those corners). A better strategy would be to get them all to turn down Duboce (closing Market Street to cars past this turnoff), or create special signals at the turn (e.g., separate red and green lights for bikes and cars, and no turn on red). JMC -- John-Marc Chandonia (jmc@sfgreens.org) http://www.dolorespark.org/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- John-Marc Chandonia (jmc@sfgreens.org) http://www.dolorespark.org/