[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for Governor

Sat Feb 17 14:43:21 PST 2018

Another huge lack of forward thinking being put forth by people opposing
this new process of endorsement is that we have smaller corporate-free
parties wanting our endorsements and even considering running their
candidates within our party to focus progressive power and limiting the
fracturing of the progressive vote. We need to form an Independent 3rd
Party Coalition with other Socialist Parties.

The Green Party is the  only Socialist party big enough to run candidates
in almost every state. Our allies in other parties need our structure and
we need their  Numbers and candidates. I’m sure there is some puritanical
secterian argument on why we should continue to do nothing about that as
well. I’m tired of watching the Green Party do nothing or very little. We
need this endorsement process for the future and now so we can bring
Independents and corporate-free Socialist Parties to the table and
exponential grow our membership and candidate selection.

The Maine Green-Independent Party hyphenated their name while
simultaneously opening up those Ballot Access and they are now running the
most candidates of any state party with 38 compared to GPCA’s 18. They are
also the first State Green Party in American history being formed in 1984.
They clearly have some wisdom that we have yet to realize considering that
our doors are closed to Independents and GPCA has Closed Primaries.

We need a early Independent 3rd Party Primary System that includes
Socialist Parties and Corporate-Free Independents to focus Power on
corporate-free  Parties.

If we fail to do this another 3rd Party will like Progressive Independent
Party or Movement for A People’s Party and we will have missed a golden
opportunity that we may never recover from.

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM Lauren Mauricio <lauren_mauricio at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> We really *should* be "pandering" to Berniecrats, though.  I was a
> Berniecrat.  I voted for Jill Stein because someone shared a link in Bernie
> Sanders' Dank Meme Stash (Facebook group) to a website that showed how her
> platform matched Bernie Sanders' by 99%.  So I voted Green and never looked
> back.  If whoever-that-Green-was hadn't pandered to me, I would have voted
> for Hillary Clinton and I would still be a begrudged Democrat to this day.
> I know a lot of people who share the same story.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lauren Mauricio
>
> Tulare County
>
>
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> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of Nicole
> Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 9:26 AM
>
> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for
> Governor
>
>
> Anthony & Others,
>
> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
>
> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
>
> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
> we really do.
>
> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly supports
> environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not reflect
> these values in his actions. There are already "progressive" democrats who
> will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP moving to the
> right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to a growing
> population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that we may
> secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve their
> interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their values.
>
> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this point
> because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is proposed
> without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
>
> -Nicole Castor
> GP Sacramento County
> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need to
> all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>
> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the voters
> hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It seems to
> much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote for. Not to
> mention at several candidates already have their names on the ballot.
>
> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some time
> to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow through
> with
> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a process
> it
> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access
> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and division,
> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>
> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
> all the Green candidates running.
>
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