[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Resignation of SGA Delegacy

Sun Feb 18 11:33:51 PST 2018

Also to Chris. Your choice to step down as a delegate in order to make room
for others is commendable. It is as sign of integrity, and should be an
example others could learn from.

On Feb 18, 2018 11:15 AM, "james clark" <faygodrinkit at gmail.com> wrote:

> Erik rydberg, what is forward thinking about violating the key value of
> decentralization? Why are fighting so hard for motion that would centralize
> power, and essentially be no better than the Democrats and their super
> delegates?
>
> How is putting greens against each other good? Most candidates I've spoken
> to personally are working together to support each other's campaign, yet
> those in favor of this proposal are running against those greens, including
> lobbying the SGA prior to this proposal.
>
> This has been happening while other candidates that had no idea such a
> proposal would be brought forth at the last minute. As such, they were
> campaigning outside of the delegates circle to aquire the signatures needed
> to be placed on the ballot.
>
> This is yet another problematic issue. Those who lobbied the SGA did so
> knowing about this proposal, and focused on winning over the delegates.
> Those who didn't, went and recruited people to sign their petitions from
> outside of the circle. That means that a vote by delegates would be
> unfairly influenced by those who new ahead of time about this proposal, but
> would not acknowledge the work growing the party other candidates put
> forth, since they were actually campaigning outside of our inner circles.
>
> Stop trying to pit greens against greens, we gain more by working as a
> team and supporting each candidate in their efforts to reach new people.
>
> On Feb 18, 2018 6:13 AM, "Chris" <chris at bestofbroadway.org> wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon fellow Greens,
>>
>> We are presently meeting at Grant High School in Sacramento. I am posting
>> this notification of my resignation as a delegate to the SGA body.
>>
>> Sacramento County has a single vacancy for a FIFTH SGA delegate. At this
>> meeting, there are two applicants for that role. In order to accommodate
>> both persons, I have waived my SGA delegacy. Our new delegates are Randy
>> Hicks and in my former position, Sid Akbar.
>>
>> I will be remaining as an alternate, and unsubscribe my myself from all
>> discussions for the upcoming votes, having said my peace.
>>
>> I ask for your support on behalf of Veronika Fimbres in your ranked
>> choice decisions. It is my wish to see all candidates receive a 2/3
>> majority endorsement. There is confusion as to whether this vote is to
>> endorse or select candidates. We need to remember the green pillar of
>> grassroots democracy and resist the urge to influence the state's mind.
>>
>> I have confirmed between Josh, Veronika, and myself that each of our
>> campaigns will persist if an endorsement is not granted, and there is no
>> foundation for conflict on this issue. I request of the GPCA councils and
>> coordinating committee a pledge not to intervene in the campaigns of
>> unendorsed candidates until June 6th, after the state primary is over.
>>
>> We are all greens.
>>
>> Thank you all for your time. I remain a registered Green candidate for
>> Governor and endorse Randy Hicks for Coordinating Committee/Council.
>>
>> I wish Sid all the best and know his input will be well heard by this
>> forum.
>>
>> God bless,
>> Christopher Carlson
>> 916.704.0058 <(916)%20704-0058>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Erik <erikrydberg34 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Another huge lack of forward thinking being put forth by people opposing
>> this new process of endorsement is that we have smaller corporate-free
>> parties wanting our endorsements and even considering running their
>> candidates within our party to focus progressive power and limiting the
>> fracturing of the progressive vote. We need to form an Independent 3rd
>> Party Coalition with other Socialist Parties.
>>
>> The Green Party is the  only Socialist party big enough to run candidates
>> in almost every state. Our allies in other parties need our structure and
>> we need their  Numbers and candidates. I’m sure there is some puritanical
>> secterian argument on why we should continue to do nothing about that as
>> well. I’m tired of watching the Green Party do nothing or very little. We
>> need this endorsement process for the future and now so we can bring
>> Independents and corporate-free Socialist Parties to the table and
>> exponential grow our membership and candidate selection.
>>
>> The Maine Green-Independent Party hyphenated their name while
>> simultaneously opening up those Ballot Access and they are now running the
>> most candidates of any state party with 38 compared to GPCA’s 18. They are
>> also the first State Green Party in American history being formed in 1984.
>> They clearly have some wisdom that we have yet to realize considering that
>> our doors are closed to Independents and GPCA has Closed Primaries.
>>
>> We need a early Independent 3rd Party Primary System that includes
>> Socialist Parties and Corporate-Free Independents to focus Power on
>> corporate-free  Parties.
>>
>> If we fail to do this another 3rd Party will like Progressive Independent
>> Party or Movement for A People’s Party and we will have missed a golden
>> opportunity that we may never recover from.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM Lauren Mauricio <
>> lauren_mauricio at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We really *should* be "pandering" to Berniecrats, though.  I was a
>>> Berniecrat.  I voted for Jill Stein because someone shared a link in Bernie
>>> Sanders' Dank Meme Stash (Facebook group) to a website that showed how her
>>> platform matched Bernie Sanders' by 99%.  So I voted Green and never looked
>>> back.  If whoever-that-Green-was hadn't pandered to me, I would have voted
>>> for Hillary Clinton and I would still be a begrudged Democrat to this day.
>>> I know a lot of people who share the same story.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Lauren Mauricio
>>>
>>> Tulare County
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of
>>> Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
>>> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for
>>> Governor
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony & Others,
>>>
>>> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
>>> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
>>> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
>>> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
>>>
>>> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
>>> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
>>> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
>>> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
>>> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
>>> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
>>> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
>>> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
>>>
>>> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
>>> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
>>> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
>>> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
>>> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
>>> we really do.
>>>
>>> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly supports
>>> environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not reflect
>>> these values in his actions. There are already "progressive" democrats who
>>> will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP moving to the
>>> right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to a growing
>>> population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that we may
>>> secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve their
>>> interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their values.
>>>
>>> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this point
>>> because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is proposed
>>> without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
>>>
>>> -Nicole Castor
>>> GP Sacramento County
>>> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need
>>> to all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
>>> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
>>> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
>>> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>>>
>>> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
>>> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the
>>> voters hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It
>>> seems to much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote
>>> for. Not to mention at several candidates already have their names on the
>>> ballot.
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some time
>>> to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
>>> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow through
>>> with
>>> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a
>>> process it
>>> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access
>>> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and
>>> division,
>>> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>>>
>>> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
>>> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
>>> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
>>> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
>>> all the Green candidates running.
>>>
>>> JMC
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>>
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>>
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