[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Resignation of SGA Delegacy

Sun Feb 18 12:10:34 PST 2018

"Stop trying to pit greens against greens"
"How is putting greens against each other good?"

We are a political party.  The electoral process by definition involves
voting for single candidate, slates of candidate, rank ordering candidates,
etc. -- this is how elections work.  It is not "turning greens against
greens".  Political parties endorse candidates as part of the electoral
process.

-- Victoria Ashley
Solano County

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:33 AM, james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Also to Chris. Your choice to step down as a delegate in order to make
> room for others is commendable. It is as sign of integrity, and should be
> an example others could learn from.
>
> On Feb 18, 2018 11:15 AM, "james clark" <faygodrinkit at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Erik rydberg, what is forward thinking about violating the key value of
>> decentralization? Why are fighting so hard for motion that would centralize
>> power, and essentially be no better than the Democrats and their super
>> delegates?
>>
>> How is putting greens against each other good? Most candidates I've
>> spoken to personally are working together to support each other's campaign,
>> yet those in favor of this proposal are running against those greens,
>> including lobbying the SGA prior to this proposal.
>>
>> This has been happening while other candidates that had no idea such a
>> proposal would be brought forth at the last minute. As such, they were
>> campaigning outside of the delegates circle to aquire the signatures needed
>> to be placed on the ballot.
>>
>> This is yet another problematic issue. Those who lobbied the SGA did so
>> knowing about this proposal, and focused on winning over the delegates.
>> Those who didn't, went and recruited people to sign their petitions from
>> outside of the circle. That means that a vote by delegates would be
>> unfairly influenced by those who new ahead of time about this proposal, but
>> would not acknowledge the work growing the party other candidates put
>> forth, since they were actually campaigning outside of our inner circles.
>>
>> Stop trying to pit greens against greens, we gain more by working as a
>> team and supporting each candidate in their efforts to reach new people.
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2018 6:13 AM, "Chris" <chris at bestofbroadway.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon fellow Greens,
>>>
>>> We are presently meeting at Grant High School in Sacramento. I am
>>> posting this notification of my resignation as a delegate to the SGA body.
>>>
>>> Sacramento County has a single vacancy for a FIFTH SGA delegate. At this
>>> meeting, there are two applicants for that role. In order to accommodate
>>> both persons, I have waived my SGA delegacy. Our new delegates are Randy
>>> Hicks and in my former position, Sid Akbar.
>>>
>>> I will be remaining as an alternate, and unsubscribe my myself from all
>>> discussions for the upcoming votes, having said my peace.
>>>
>>> I ask for your support on behalf of Veronika Fimbres in your ranked
>>> choice decisions. It is my wish to see all candidates receive a 2/3
>>> majority endorsement. There is confusion as to whether this vote is to
>>> endorse or select candidates. We need to remember the green pillar of
>>> grassroots democracy and resist the urge to influence the state's mind.
>>>
>>> I have confirmed between Josh, Veronika, and myself that each of our
>>> campaigns will persist if an endorsement is not granted, and there is no
>>> foundation for conflict on this issue. I request of the GPCA councils and
>>> coordinating committee a pledge not to intervene in the campaigns of
>>> unendorsed candidates until June 6th, after the state primary is over.
>>>
>>> We are all greens.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your time. I remain a registered Green candidate for
>>> Governor and endorse Randy Hicks for Coordinating Committee/Council.
>>>
>>> I wish Sid all the best and know his input will be well heard by this
>>> forum.
>>>
>>> God bless,
>>> Christopher Carlson
>>> 916.704.0058 <(916)%20704-0058>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Erik <erikrydberg34 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another huge lack of forward thinking being put forth by people opposing
>>> this new process of endorsement is that we have smaller corporate-free
>>> parties wanting our endorsements and even considering running their
>>> candidates within our party to focus progressive power and limiting the
>>> fracturing of the progressive vote. We need to form an Independent 3rd
>>> Party Coalition with other Socialist Parties.
>>>
>>> The Green Party is the  only Socialist party big enough to run
>>> candidates in almost every state. Our allies in other parties need our
>>> structure and we need their  Numbers and candidates. I’m sure there is some
>>> puritanical secterian argument on why we should continue to do nothing
>>> about that as well. I’m tired of watching the Green Party do nothing or
>>> very little. We need this endorsement process for the future and now so we
>>> can bring Independents and corporate-free Socialist Parties to the table
>>> and exponential grow our membership and candidate selection.
>>>
>>> The Maine Green-Independent Party hyphenated their name while
>>> simultaneously opening up those Ballot Access and they are now running the
>>> most candidates of any state party with 38 compared to GPCA’s 18. They are
>>> also the first State Green Party in American history being formed in 1984.
>>> They clearly have some wisdom that we have yet to realize considering that
>>> our doors are closed to Independents and GPCA has Closed Primaries.
>>>
>>> We need a early Independent 3rd Party Primary System that includes
>>> Socialist Parties and Corporate-Free Independents to focus Power on
>>> corporate-free  Parties.
>>>
>>> If we fail to do this another 3rd Party will like Progressive
>>> Independent Party or Movement for A People’s Party and we will have missed
>>> a golden opportunity that we may never recover from.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM Lauren Mauricio <
>>> lauren_mauricio at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We really *should* be "pandering" to Berniecrats, though.  I was a
>>>> Berniecrat.  I voted for Jill Stein because someone shared a link in Bernie
>>>> Sanders' Dank Meme Stash (Facebook group) to a website that showed how her
>>>> platform matched Bernie Sanders' by 99%.  So I voted Green and never looked
>>>> back.  If whoever-that-Green-was hadn't pandered to me, I would have voted
>>>> for Hillary Clinton and I would still be a begrudged Democrat to this day.
>>>> I know a lot of people who share the same story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Lauren Mauricio
>>>>
>>>> Tulare County
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of
>>>> Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for
>>>> Governor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anthony & Others,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
>>>> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
>>>> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
>>>> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
>>>>
>>>> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
>>>> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
>>>> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
>>>> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
>>>> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
>>>> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
>>>> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
>>>> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
>>>>
>>>> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
>>>> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
>>>> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
>>>> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
>>>> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
>>>> we really do.
>>>>
>>>> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly
>>>> supports environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not
>>>> reflect these values in his actions. There are already "progressive"
>>>> democrats who will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP
>>>> moving to the right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to
>>>> a growing population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that
>>>> we may secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve
>>>> their interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their
>>>> values.
>>>>
>>>> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this
>>>> point because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is
>>>> proposed without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
>>>>
>>>> -Nicole Castor
>>>> GP Sacramento County
>>>> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need
>>>> to all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
>>>> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
>>>> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
>>>> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>>>>
>>>> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
>>>> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the
>>>> voters hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It
>>>> seems to much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote
>>>> for. Not to mention at several candidates already have their names on the
>>>> ballot.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some
>>>> time to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
>>>> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow through
>>>> with
>>>> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a
>>>> process it
>>>> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot access
>>>> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and
>>>> division,
>>>> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>>>>
>>>> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
>>>> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
>>>> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
>>>> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
>>>> all the Green candidates running.
>>>>
>>>> JMC
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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