[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Resignation of SGA Delegacy

Sun Feb 18 18:03:40 PST 2018

The general public is voting on this endorsement??

Can you read what you wrote again, Victoria? This is not how elections
work.
On Feb 18, 2018 4:53 PM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Stop trying to pit greens against greens"
> "How is putting greens against each other good?"
>
> We are a political party.  The electoral process by definition involves
> voting for single candidate, slates of candidate, rank ordering candidates,
> etc. -- this is how elections work.  It is not "turning greens against
> greens".  Political parties endorse candidates as part of the electoral
> process.
>
> -- Victoria Ashley
> Solano County
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:33 AM, james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Also to Chris. Your choice to step down as a delegate in order to make
>> room for others is commendable. It is as sign of integrity, and should be
>> an example others could learn from.
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2018 11:15 AM, "james clark" <faygodrinkit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Erik rydberg, what is forward thinking about violating the key value of
>>> decentralization? Why are fighting so hard for motion that would centralize
>>> power, and essentially be no better than the Democrats and their super
>>> delegates?
>>>
>>> How is putting greens against each other good? Most candidates I've
>>> spoken to personally are working together to support each other's campaign,
>>> yet those in favor of this proposal are running against those greens,
>>> including lobbying the SGA prior to this proposal.
>>>
>>> This has been happening while other candidates that had no idea such a
>>> proposal would be brought forth at the last minute. As such, they were
>>> campaigning outside of the delegates circle to aquire the signatures needed
>>> to be placed on the ballot.
>>>
>>> This is yet another problematic issue. Those who lobbied the SGA did so
>>> knowing about this proposal, and focused on winning over the delegates.
>>> Those who didn't, went and recruited people to sign their petitions from
>>> outside of the circle. That means that a vote by delegates would be
>>> unfairly influenced by those who new ahead of time about this proposal, but
>>> would not acknowledge the work growing the party other candidates put
>>> forth, since they were actually campaigning outside of our inner circles.
>>>
>>> Stop trying to pit greens against greens, we gain more by working as a
>>> team and supporting each candidate in their efforts to reach new people.
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2018 6:13 AM, "Chris" <chris at bestofbroadway.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good afternoon fellow Greens,
>>>>
>>>> We are presently meeting at Grant High School in Sacramento. I am
>>>> posting this notification of my resignation as a delegate to the SGA body.
>>>>
>>>> Sacramento County has a single vacancy for a FIFTH SGA delegate. At
>>>> this meeting, there are two applicants for that role. In order to
>>>> accommodate both persons, I have waived my SGA delegacy. Our new delegates
>>>> are Randy Hicks and in my former position, Sid Akbar.
>>>>
>>>> I will be remaining as an alternate, and unsubscribe my myself from all
>>>> discussions for the upcoming votes, having said my peace.
>>>>
>>>> I ask for your support on behalf of Veronika Fimbres in your ranked
>>>> choice decisions. It is my wish to see all candidates receive a 2/3
>>>> majority endorsement. There is confusion as to whether this vote is to
>>>> endorse or select candidates. We need to remember the green pillar of
>>>> grassroots democracy and resist the urge to influence the state's mind.
>>>>
>>>> I have confirmed between Josh, Veronika, and myself that each of our
>>>> campaigns will persist if an endorsement is not granted, and there is no
>>>> foundation for conflict on this issue. I request of the GPCA councils and
>>>> coordinating committee a pledge not to intervene in the campaigns of
>>>> unendorsed candidates until June 6th, after the state primary is over.
>>>>
>>>> We are all greens.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for your time. I remain a registered Green candidate for
>>>> Governor and endorse Randy Hicks for Coordinating Committee/Council.
>>>>
>>>> I wish Sid all the best and know his input will be well heard by this
>>>> forum.
>>>>
>>>> God bless,
>>>> Christopher Carlson
>>>> 916.704.0058 <(916)%20704-0058>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Erik <erikrydberg34 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Another huge lack of forward thinking being put forth by people
>>>> opposing this new process of endorsement is that we have smaller
>>>> corporate-free parties wanting our endorsements and even considering
>>>> running their candidates within our party to focus progressive power and
>>>> limiting the fracturing of the progressive vote. We need to form an
>>>> Independent 3rd Party Coalition with other Socialist Parties.
>>>>
>>>> The Green Party is the  only Socialist party big enough to run
>>>> candidates in almost every state. Our allies in other parties need our
>>>> structure and we need their  Numbers and candidates. I’m sure there is some
>>>> puritanical secterian argument on why we should continue to do nothing
>>>> about that as well. I’m tired of watching the Green Party do nothing or
>>>> very little. We need this endorsement process for the future and now so we
>>>> can bring Independents and corporate-free Socialist Parties to the table
>>>> and exponential grow our membership and candidate selection.
>>>>
>>>> The Maine Green-Independent Party hyphenated their name while
>>>> simultaneously opening up those Ballot Access and they are now running the
>>>> most candidates of any state party with 38 compared to GPCA’s 18. They are
>>>> also the first State Green Party in American history being formed in 1984.
>>>> They clearly have some wisdom that we have yet to realize considering that
>>>> our doors are closed to Independents and GPCA has Closed Primaries.
>>>>
>>>> We need a early Independent 3rd Party Primary System that includes
>>>> Socialist Parties and Corporate-Free Independents to focus Power on
>>>> corporate-free  Parties.
>>>>
>>>> If we fail to do this another 3rd Party will like Progressive
>>>> Independent Party or Movement for A People’s Party and we will have missed
>>>> a golden opportunity that we may never recover from.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM Lauren Mauricio <
>>>> lauren_mauricio at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We really *should* be "pandering" to Berniecrats, though.  I was a
>>>>> Berniecrat.  I voted for Jill Stein because someone shared a link in Bernie
>>>>> Sanders' Dank Meme Stash (Facebook group) to a website that showed how her
>>>>> platform matched Bernie Sanders' by 99%.  So I voted Green and never looked
>>>>> back.  If whoever-that-Green-was hadn't pandered to me, I would have voted
>>>>> for Hillary Clinton and I would still be a begrudged Democrat to this day.
>>>>> I know a lot of people who share the same story.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lauren Mauricio
>>>>>
>>>>> Tulare County
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 9:26 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 145: GPCA endorsement for
>>>>> Governor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony & Others,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that this process should have been started at least six months
>>>>> ago. At this point, candidates and their teams have already done the work
>>>>> to get on the ballot and it is likely there will be more than one Green
>>>>> candidate for the offices of SOS & Governor.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we're not in it to win it, what is the point? There is a point,
>>>>> actually. We will benefit from having any of the statewide candidates
>>>>> reaching 2%, thus securing ballot access. In addition, Green Party benefits
>>>>> by campaigning our platform, Key Values and the type of electoral reforms
>>>>> which are necessary to empower alternate parties. I do not feel it is
>>>>> useful to delude ourselves into thinking that we are in fact "in it to win
>>>>> it," because until these reforms are accomplished, we are severely
>>>>> disadvantaged in realistically competing to win.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also do not feel it is useful to put so much weight on pandering to
>>>>> so-called "berniecrats," as it dilutes our values in specific ways which
>>>>> compromises what the party actually stands for. Of course such pandering
>>>>> has its merit in reaching registration goals, but for a race like this, we
>>>>> should be careful in pretending we share more in common with that core than
>>>>> we really do.
>>>>>
>>>>> There has to be a party which stands firmly against war, firmly
>>>>> supports environmental protections, among other issues and Sanders does not
>>>>> reflect these values in his actions. There are already "progressive"
>>>>> democrats who will woo voters with compromised ideals and so rather than GP
>>>>> moving to the right, we stand firm, campaign and demonstrate our values to
>>>>> a growing population of individuals who agree, and keep our stances so that
>>>>> we may secure a place for them when they realize the duopoly does not serve
>>>>> their interests and that these voters no longer wish to compromise their
>>>>> values.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will vote against the SGA proposal to endorse candidates at this
>>>>> point because it was brought in too late, serves little purpose and is
>>>>> proposed without a strategy which delegates could examine and decide upon.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Nicole Castor
>>>>> GP Sacramento County
>>>>> On Feb 16, 2018 7:52 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Another major concern is breaking up our parties voting base.  We need
>>>>> to all get behind someone and that someone hopefully will reach out and get
>>>>> votes from independents, progressives and possibly bernicrats.  Otherwise
>>>>> were not in itvto win it, so then whats the point?  We have a such a small
>>>>> percentage of green voters to make a win, why should we split that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also i beliwve that this process should be started 6 months ago, so we
>>>>> could already be backing a unified candidate.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM james clark <faygodrinkit at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One major concern is that this process would take power out of the
>>>>> voters hands to decide which candidate best represents their values. It
>>>>> seems to much the DNC and their delegates picking who people get to vote
>>>>> for. Not to mention at several candidates already have their names on the
>>>>> ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2018 11:14 AM, "Victoria Ashley" <victronix01 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the vote doesn't start until late March, that would give some
>>>>> time to send out a list of all the GP candidates on the Inform List.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, John-Marc Chandonia <jmc at sfgreens.org
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:25:47PM -0800, james clark wrote:
>>>>> > I feel it is not in the best interests of the party to follow
>>>>> through with
>>>>> > this ill timed endorsement process. If we were to perform such a
>>>>> process it
>>>>> > should have been done prior to candidates reaching their ballot
>>>>> access
>>>>> > goals. To do so at this juncture will only create animosity and
>>>>> division,
>>>>> > and will not effect candidates placement on the ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't they have until March 9 to raise funds for the ballot?  If
>>>>> that's the case, we should know by the time the SGA votes who is in
>>>>> and who is out.  I agree that we should not make an endorsement before
>>>>> then, because we haven't had any process for informing Greens about
>>>>> all the Green candidates running.
>>>>>
>>>>> JMC
>>>>> --
>>>>> John-Marc Chandonia (jmc at sfgreens.org)
>>>>> http://sfgreens.org/
>>>>>
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>>>>> Anthony J. Krzywicki,
>>>>>
>>>>> * Co-coordinator GROW- Green Party California Co-coordinator Ventura
>>>>> County Green Party County Council*
>>>>> www.venturacountygreenparty.com
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>>>>>
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>>>>> daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to
>>>>> desist from harming them. *
>>>>> -Dali Lama
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>>>>
>>>> *Erik Rydberg *
>>>>
>>>> *Green Party of California(GPCA) Spokesperson*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *erikrydberg34 at gmail.com <erikrydberg34 at gmail.com>530-781-2903
>>>> <(530)%20781-2903>*
>>>>
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