[Gpca-votes] Fwd: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures

Wed Jan 31 09:31:28 PST 2018

Bob and others,

Bob is entitled to an opinion, but should never speak on behalf of others.

I have every right to address these issues as they are completely relevant
to the upcoming SGA voting period.

The responses I've seen from the so-called "reformers" are weak,
non-evidence to excuse their undemocratic and exclusionary practices in
handing the previous vote.

For the delegates set to participate, let this be a beacon to any who may
have had doubts or opinions which might not align with the GPCA status quo-
showing that they are not alone.

-N

PS. It's only a waste of time when it's dissent, huh? Maintaining integrity
in our values & purpose is never a waste of time.
On Jan 31, 2018 9:10 AM, "Bob Marsh" <bob at marsh.name> wrote:

> Nicole has wasted enough of my time (and all of yours as well, I'm sure)
> so I'm giving her a coveted spot on my "delete immediately" email list...
> poof! gone.
>
> cheers,
> Bob
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What evidence is this exactly? That someone sent a request? I see no
>> reply explaining a refusal to comply. How are we to know phone calls
>> weren't made or that SGA admins other than Laura weren't contacted
>> separately? It is my understanding that Brian Good was contacted, although
>> this could be wrong.
>>
>> If there is no actual evidence to indicate the claims which have been
>> stated, the argument should cease.
>>
>> This still does not address my original concern that the statistics of
>> the SGA vote are not valid. The reason for this is that the voting was not
>> completed since some SGA delegates were cut off three hours prior to the
>> deadline. It makes no difference whether or not these delegates "agreed" to
>> forfeit their votes. The point is- it affects the percentages in the
>> results. Therefore, if someone out there was citing these percentages for
>> whatever reason- the numbers would not be accurate.
>>
>> I wish i had mentioned it when it happened, but i mention now because we
>> are approaching a new voting period and it is my hope, as it should be for
>> all others as well, that this next vote reflects more integrity in the
>> values we claim to uphold.
>>
>> -N
>> On Jan 31, 2018 7:36 AM, "Sadie Fulton" <sadie.fulton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The attached email is evidence of the new SGA administrators reaching
>>> out to the outgoing ones, requesting access and training. This is direct
>>> evidence against Nicole's claim that outreach was made in the other
>>> direction and refused.
>>> No response was ever received for this email. If the claim that Tim and
>>> Mike were willing to train the new SGA administrators back in September
>>> when the request was made is to hold any water henceforth, let's see
>>> your evidence.
>>> Sadie
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Laura Wells <laurawells510 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 6, 2017, 11:34
>>> Subject: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures
>>> To: GPCA Coordinating Committee <gpca-cc at lists.cagreens.org>
>>> Cc: Tim Laidman <timlaidman at yahoo.com>, Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> *[This list of questions is going especially to long-time SGA Vote
>>> Administrators Mike Feinstein and Tim Laidman; to all CC members; and to
>>> Brian Good, a newly elected admin who is not on the CC.] *
>>>
>>> Hello all —
>>>
>>> Now that we have a roster of 5 new SGA Vote Administrators (Victoria
>>> Ashley, Brian Good, Laura Wells), and 2 alternates (Eric Brooks and Mike
>>> Goldbeck), we need to get trained and up-to-speed.
>>>
>>> Please reply with whatever help you can provide.
>>>
>>> Here is a starter list of questions that will allow us to create
>>> procedures, a process for gaining access to the system, and training needed
>>> by the incoming SGA Vote Administrators. The last question applies to
>>> almost all of the others: who performs each of the tasks now, and who
>>> can provide the new admins with access to each of the processes?
>>>
>>> (1) How is the list of SGA delegates updated?
>>> http://sga.cagreens.org/vote/contacts?cid=13
>>>
>>> (2) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA email list,
>>> gpca-votes at cagreens.org (or gpca-votes at lists.cagreens.org)?
>>>
>>> (3) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA voting pages/voting system?
>>>
>>> (4) How do proposal pages get published on the website?
>>>
>>> (5) How do candidate lists get published on the website? How do
>>> candidate applications/bios get published and updated?
>>>
>>> (6) How are the SGA announcements set up? Announcements include the
>>> beginning of the discussion and voting periods, the upcoming end of the
>>> voting period, and the ending of the voting period.
>>>
>>> (7) How are the results announced for yes/no votes and for ranked choice
>>> votes?
>>>
>>> (8) Who does each of the above, and who can provide the new admins with
>>> access to each of the above?
>>>
>>> (9) What else should be included on this list of questions?
>>>
>>> NOTE that in researching the GP-US voting system, it appears that “Vote
>>> Administrators” are called “Floor Managers” and the job rotates among the
>>> Steering Committee members, with some duties performed by the Secretary of
>>> the Steering Committee. The system was described as a process of filling
>>> out (“plugging in”) the software forms online: checking boxes for kind of
>>> vote, discussion period, listing candidates; and pasting in proposals,
>>> background, resources required, references. It’s possible that the CA
>>> system, which apparently was originally based on the same system as the
>>> national, may have become more complicated over the years, but still
>>> do-able by people who are not necessarily highly technical.
>>>
>>> Thank you all.
>>> Laura Wells
>>> CC member and one of the newly-elected SGA Vote Administrators
>>>
>>>
>>>
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