[Gpca-votes] Fwd: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures

Wed Jan 31 09:45:02 PST 2018

Nicole, you are not expressing dissent anymore, you are exploiting a
strategic lack of paper trail in order to gaslight the entire listserv. In
a court of law,  testimonies from a wide variety of witnesses are usually
adequate for sentencing. Its time your side ponied up a bit more solid
evidence of your claims instead of one person asserting their
"understanding".

You can assert that I and the others on this listserv are liars if you want
to. I will testify under oath if that's what's needed of me.
Sadie

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 09:32 Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob and others,
>
> Bob is entitled to an opinion, but should never speak on behalf of others.
>
> I have every right to address these issues as they are completely relevant
> to the upcoming SGA voting period.
>
> The responses I've seen from the so-called "reformers" are weak,
> non-evidence to excuse their undemocratic and exclusionary practices in
> handing the previous vote.
>
> For the delegates set to participate, let this be a beacon to any who may
> have had doubts or opinions which might not align with the GPCA status quo-
> showing that they are not alone.
>
> -N
>
> PS. It's only a waste of time when it's dissent, huh? Maintaining
> integrity in our values & purpose is never a waste of time.
> On Jan 31, 2018 9:10 AM, "Bob Marsh" <bob at marsh.name> wrote:
>
>> Nicole has wasted enough of my time (and all of yours as well, I'm sure)
>> so I'm giving her a coveted spot on my "delete immediately" email list...
>> poof! gone.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Nicole Castor <nmcastorsilva at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What evidence is this exactly? That someone sent a request? I see no
>>> reply explaining a refusal to comply. How are we to know phone calls
>>> weren't made or that SGA admins other than Laura weren't contacted
>>> separately? It is my understanding that Brian Good was contacted, although
>>> this could be wrong.
>>>
>>> If there is no actual evidence to indicate the claims which have been
>>> stated, the argument should cease.
>>>
>>> This still does not address my original concern that the statistics of
>>> the SGA vote are not valid. The reason for this is that the voting was not
>>> completed since some SGA delegates were cut off three hours prior to the
>>> deadline. It makes no difference whether or not these delegates "agreed" to
>>> forfeit their votes. The point is- it affects the percentages in the
>>> results. Therefore, if someone out there was citing these percentages for
>>> whatever reason- the numbers would not be accurate.
>>>
>>> I wish i had mentioned it when it happened, but i mention now because we
>>> are approaching a new voting period and it is my hope, as it should be for
>>> all others as well, that this next vote reflects more integrity in the
>>> values we claim to uphold.
>>>
>>> -N
>>> On Jan 31, 2018 7:36 AM, "Sadie Fulton" <sadie.fulton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The attached email is evidence of the new SGA administrators reaching
>>>> out to the outgoing ones, requesting access and training. This is direct
>>>> evidence against Nicole's claim that outreach was made in the other
>>>> direction and refused.
>>>> No response was ever received for this email. If the claim that Tim and
>>>> Mike were willing to train the new SGA administrators back in September
>>>> when the request was made is to hold any water henceforth, let's see
>>>> your evidence.
>>>> Sadie
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Laura Wells <laurawells510 at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Wed, Sep 6, 2017, 11:34
>>>> Subject: [gpca-cc] SGA Vote Administrator procedures
>>>> To: GPCA Coordinating Committee <gpca-cc at lists.cagreens.org>
>>>> Cc: Tim Laidman <timlaidman at yahoo.com>, Brian Good <
>>>> snug.bug at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[This list of questions is going especially to long-time SGA Vote
>>>> Administrators Mike Feinstein and Tim Laidman; to all CC members; and to
>>>> Brian Good, a newly elected admin who is not on the CC.] *
>>>>
>>>> Hello all —
>>>>
>>>> Now that we have a roster of 5 new SGA Vote Administrators (Victoria
>>>> Ashley, Brian Good, Laura Wells), and 2 alternates (Eric Brooks and Mike
>>>> Goldbeck), we need to get trained and up-to-speed.
>>>>
>>>> Please reply with whatever help you can provide.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a starter list of questions that will allow us to create
>>>> procedures, a process for gaining access to the system, and training needed
>>>> by the incoming SGA Vote Administrators. The last question applies to
>>>> almost all of the others: who performs each of the tasks now, and who
>>>> can provide the new admins with access to each of the processes?
>>>>
>>>> (1) How is the list of SGA delegates updated?
>>>> http://sga.cagreens.org/vote/contacts?cid=13
>>>>
>>>> (2) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA email list,
>>>> gpca-votes at cagreens.org (or gpca-votes at lists.cagreens.org)?
>>>>
>>>> (3) How are SGA delegates added to the SGA voting pages/voting system?
>>>>
>>>> (4) How do proposal pages get published on the website?
>>>>
>>>> (5) How do candidate lists get published on the website? How do
>>>> candidate applications/bios get published and updated?
>>>>
>>>> (6) How are the SGA announcements set up? Announcements include the
>>>> beginning of the discussion and voting periods, the upcoming end of the
>>>> voting period, and the ending of the voting period.
>>>>
>>>> (7) How are the results announced for yes/no votes and for ranked
>>>> choice votes?
>>>>
>>>> (8) Who does each of the above, and who can provide the new admins with
>>>> access to each of the above?
>>>>
>>>> (9) What else should be included on this list of questions?
>>>>
>>>> NOTE that in researching the GP-US voting system, it appears that “Vote
>>>> Administrators” are called “Floor Managers” and the job rotates among the
>>>> Steering Committee members, with some duties performed by the Secretary of
>>>> the Steering Committee. The system was described as a process of filling
>>>> out (“plugging in”) the software forms online: checking boxes for kind of
>>>> vote, discussion period, listing candidates; and pasting in proposals,
>>>> background, resources required, references. It’s possible that the CA
>>>> system, which apparently was originally based on the same system as the
>>>> national, may have become more complicated over the years, but still
>>>> do-able by people who are not necessarily highly technical.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all.
>>>> Laura Wells
>>>> CC member and one of the newly-elected SGA Vote Administrators
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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