[Gpca-votes] State level Green Party

Wed Jan 31 11:59:52 PST 2018

Kelsey Reedy shared this event. An example of strides being taken in
Humboldt.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Christopher Carlson <
chris at bestofbroadway.org> wrote:

> Hi Yolanda, Frank, Angelica, and Tom
>
> Estoy de acuerdo sobre estes problemas. Creo que necesitamos protejerlos
> trabajadores y familias viviendo en California. Claro que si, ICE y DHS son
> cuerpos inconstitucionales que violar la enmienda cuarto y la campaña
> contra mis amigos en un pogrom.
>
> En presente, tres personas verdes tienen papeles con el estado por la
> oficina gobernador. Veronika Fimbres del San Francisco, Josh Jones del
> Davis, y yo soy de Rio Linda, CA. Soy hispanohablante. Trabajé en tres
> cocinas y escribo obras de teatro con partes en español.
>
> Perdoname mi gramatica, necesito buscar palabras poco a poco. Yolanda,
> donde vives? El mejor parte del partido Verde en SudoCalifornia, en niveles
> locales, por ejemplo Angelica Dueñas, son luchadores por la seguridad and
> proteccion de immigrantes colores. Tambien los Norteños verses luchar por
> los personas de nacciones primerios. No es bastante. Necesitamos juntar con
> otros a mantener un "ferrocarril subterráneo" como abolicionistas. Es un
> solucción de cultura. Ayudamos, por favor. Muchas gentes en partido verde
> tiene amigas que pueden ayudar y necesitamos numeros del telefono o otras
> caminos a encuentrar los immigrantes en peligro politico.
>
> Mi propuesta por todos los verdes: Este forum es el ferrocarril.
> My proposal for all greens: Use this GPCA forum to connect threatened
> individuals with places to stay, legal representation, and food. Extend
> this also to the homeless. We are a community with many spaces. If a fellow
> green can crash in someone's backyard once in a while, Greens can
> coordinate services to assist any who bring forward a need; specifically
> threatened immigrants.
>
> As for green organization:
>
> According to studies of human society growth, centralization of a body
> occurs naturally between 25,ooo and 50,ooo members. With centralization
> comes a form of dues or taxation. We have attracted through our policy of
> decentralization a number of individuals who prefer a system where no
> person wields authority over another, and there is no risk to the body of
> having a specific leader targeted by establishment opponents.
>
> In order to preserve the party, we need lasting involvement and commitment
> to the solvency of our hard earned political rights. There are monumental
> figures in the green movement who call California home. Sometimes they
> organize against one another. The important thing is to remember that while
> one group may care for growth, another for power, another for change, and
> another for the security of the party, we are all greens. That means
> sticking it out.
>
> Anyone who leaves this project or is excommunicated from the party will
> not have the joy of being part of a global movement for restitution against
> corporate greed and short sighted human demolition of the only planet we
> have ever walked on.
>
>  Those who have just joined the party are faced with a steep learning
> curve, but not one so great as most other organizations. In proceeding, we
> must remember that NONVIOLENCE is a personal growth issue and central tenet
> of the Greens. There are other movements for violent reactionaries, this is
> not one of them.
>
> Most importantly, I am in favor of a do-nothing or next to nothing
> centralized state body (GPCA) that acts to fulfill the minimal requirements
> of hierarchy imposed upon us by the state. No green will disagree that we
> should focus on local representation, as state candidates serve more as
> party representatives than viable candidates for office. As such, state
> reps carry a heavy burden of responsibility to maintaining at least a
> façade of political savvy and responsive, rather than reactionary conduct.
> Myself included.
>
> Sorry for the length, nowadays that's a burden.
> Chris
> Sacramento County
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 8:56 AM, F Lambert <boatrocker2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greens:
>
> I think Thomas Leavitt said it well. As Rocky Anderson, former mayor of
> Salt Lake City and presidential candidate told Amy Goodman on Democracy
> Now! several years ago, I like the Green Party but they have
> "organizational problems."
>
> Please reread what Thomas wrote above.  Our country is more divided now
> and in my opinion, we could be the hope of the vast majority, and to be
> taken seriously as a political party but it takes UNITY and MONEY. For
> close to 100,000 registered Greens in California, we have diddly in the
> state treasury.
>
> That's my two cents,
>
> Frank Lambert
> Monterey County
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:41 AM, yolanda catzalco <ycatzalc at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All I know is, with the exception of at the most two or three emails, I
>> have heard nothing about our Green Party candidate for Governor anywhere,
>> not even from Green Party.  Even though we probably wouldn't win, the
>> elections give us an opportunity to speak about Green Party values,
>> program, etc.  Also, why is the Green Party at all levels silent on the
>> immigrants of color pogroms going on locally, statewide, and nationally?
>> I'm probably going to receive a reply to discuss this at the green party
>> forum email.  Politics moves any party forward.  I think Green Party is too
>> stuck on organization, which is very important also as that is the vehicle
>> to express our politics, but , yes, unfortunately, there are not enough
>> politics, there are not enough Spanish-speaking folks writing flyers,
>> postcards, etc.  I think at least at a state level any further local voting
>> guides should include a line or two on the pogroms (1 line) & on Green
>> Party's position of Amnesty for immigrants.
>>
>> Yolanda Catzalco
>>
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>> *From:* gpca-votes <gpca-votes-bounces at sfgreens.org> on behalf of J HALL
>> <shallow60 at sbcglobal.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:04 PM
>> *To:* GPCA Discussion List for SGA Votes
>> *Subject:* Re: [Gpca-votes] State level Green Party
>>
>> Yes.
>>
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>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Thomas Leavitt
>> <thomleavitt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The inability of this party, at a statewide level, to conduct itself in a
>> functional fashion, without endless bickering, infighting, plotting and
>> conspiracy mongering (justified and otherwise), over the last TWENTY PLUS
>> YEARS, and clearly replicated on this thread, is exactly why so many sane
>> and reasonable party members view engagement with the party at a non-local
>> level with trepidation, and in many cases, as an act of masochism. This is
>> why I have absolutely, regardless of my personal view of various parties
>> and events, abstained from participation in recent votes since being placed
>> on the SGA, and will continue to do so. This is why the biggest Green Party
>> in the country, by numbers, in the biggest state, apparently operates on a
>> budget which doesn't even amount to spare change by any rational
>> standard... all this infighting is over literal pennies. City council
>> candidates in Santa Cruz, a city of 50,000, raise more money for their
>> campaigns than our entire state operates on (based on the figures I've
>> seen).
>>
>> Things that should be of the highest urgency and priority, are left
>> unattended.
>>
>> Look at our budget committee page, it says:
>>
>> "*Current Members (FY2013-2014 budget preparation)*"
>>
>> http://www.cagreens.org/committees/budget
>>
>> I'm sure it would be effortless to find additional examples.
>>
>> Regardless of what recent issues we've had, there is NO POSSIBLE EXCUSE
>> for this page to be FIVE YEARS out of date. FIVE YEARS. Do you all realize
>> how totally unprofessional and credibility destroying this is to all but
>> the most motivated folks considering alternatives to the duopoly? How can
>> any of us defend this type of performance and collective conduct?
>>
>> I've been formally involved with this party since I arrived in Santa Cruz
>> in 1993, and registered since 1990. Tom Hayden sent me a postcard urging me
>> to re-register as a Democrat when I did. I didn't. That's going on a
>> quarter century. I've known some of you for almost that long, know parties
>> on all sides of various internal divisions, I don't claim to be purely
>> objective, but as someone who has deliberately tried to not emphatically
>> plant myself on any particular faction or individual's side, I'm begging
>> you, on behalf of all the other folks who aren't invested in these
>> disputes, to please, figure this stuff out. Resolve your differences, or at
>> least minimize their fallout on the rest of us. Any sane and objective
>> evaluation, based on simple examination of the last twenty years, should
>> make it clear that no absolute and lasting "victory" of any faction is
>> possible - you all HAVE NO CHOICE BUT  TO CONTINUE DEALING WITH EACH OTHER.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Thomas Leavitt
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