[Sustain] I'm not trying to start an argument here; just trying to get to the bottom of a few things.
http://www.siteselection.com/ssinsider/snapshot/sf060810.htm It does seem that Illinois---but not the Sierra Club----bid $80 for this clean coal business, against Ohio and Kentucky, the other members of the Peabody Coal Triangle. And, like I said, I found one town in Illinois where the local Sierra Club was celebrating its choice of clean coal as a global warming solution. One town. Aren't local Sierra Clubs, like PIRG organizations, more or less free to go off on their own locally? And Mary Ratcliff and Ahimsa do seem to disagree with you, John, about this, so you might want to get in touch with them. And, like I said, they seem to be on the right side in the Four Corners. I'm not arguing; I'm really asking people to help me with more info than I have. I think we're all in agreement about this disgusting Apollo Alliance. I'd like some more info as to what to make of the Environmental Defense Fund, which John McCain sent me a fundraising letter for, trying to sell me a canvas bag for a membership. One thing clear to me is that anything with the term "Gen" in it is some sort of federally sponsored evil. ---A.G.
Local Sierra Club chapters are democratically run and very autonomous. However PIRG chapters, and their spin-offs like Environment California, are part of a hierarchy that is run from the top (with the exception of New York, which broke off and became autonomous decades ago). Eric B anniegarrison@mac.com wrote:
http://www.siteselection.com/ssinsider/snapshot/sf060810.htm
It does seem that Illinois---but not the Sierra Club----bid $80 for this clean coal business, against Ohio and Kentucky, the other members of the Peabody Coal Triangle.
And, like I said, I found one town in Illinois where the local Sierra Club was celebrating its choice of clean coal as a global warming solution. One town.
Aren't local Sierra Clubs, like PIRG organizations, more or less free to go off on their own locally?
And Mary Ratcliff and Ahimsa do seem to disagree with you, John, about this, so you might want to get in touch with them.
And, like I said, they seem to be on the right side in the Four Corners.
I'm not arguing; I'm really asking people to help me with more info than I have. I think we're all in agreement about this disgusting Apollo Alliance.
I'd like some more info as to what to make of the Environmental Defense Fund, which John McCain sent me a fundraising letter for, trying to sell me a canvas bag for a membership.
One thing clear to me is that anything with the term "Gen" in it is some sort of federally sponsored evil. ---A.G.
Well, not quite. Sierra Club chapters are democratically run, but are not completely autonomous. There is a hierarchy of groups from city, chapter or state, and national. Chapters cannot work against national policy. (Chapters are not free to support coal, for instance.) If they do, they can lose their charter. Chapters also don't endorse for president. It isn't top down, though, like PIRG. National doesn't get involved in local issues. It's more like government, with local, state, and national jurisdictions. Democratically run at all the levels. JR
Local Sierra Club chapters are democratically run and very autonomous.
However PIRG chapters, and their spin-offs like Environment California, are part of a hierarchy that is run from the top (with the exception of New York, which broke off and became autonomous decades ago).
Eric B
anniegarrison@mac.com wrote:
http://www.siteselection.com/ssinsider/snapshot/sf060810.htm
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