[GPCA-SGA-Votes] Discuss ID 147: GPCA endorsement for Secretary of State

Sat Feb 17 10:40:28 PST 2018

Greens,

Re: June,

"I have good news for you.  This process does allow SGA voters the option
to endorse *every* Green statewide candidate that qualifies for the CA June
Primary Ballot."

This is a better option than before, and I, for one, appreciate the effort.

However, the process is still being implimented too late, and will still
reflect the will of a few select GPCA members over the general population
of CA Greens.

There is still no standard measure set to determine to SGA voters who the
"best" candidate(s) is/are. Without a standard, we are basing these
decisions on sentiment, and the successful campaigning of the SGA alone,
which undermines our Key Values of Grassroots Democracy and
Decentralization (by highlighting the result of a campaign to a centralized
group of voters).

It's too late to proceed with this process in a democratic way which stays
true to our TKV's and I will vote NO on the proposal for endorsement &
"endorse all" for the candidates portion, so thank you for adding that
option and for listening to Chris Carlson's concerns on this.

-N
On Feb 17, 2018 10:17 AM, "Anthony Krzywicki" <chefkrzywicki at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I dont understand why you wouldnt want to endorse someone on the
> primary... the party is creating political suicide by not having an
> endorsed candidate.  This coversation makes no sense.  We need one
> candidate to get behind or its pointless.  We need to win the primary not
> just run candidates all over the place.  At this juncture timing is off and
> we need to do this earlier in the future elections.
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:59 AM Mimi Newton <mimi.newton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks June! This is very helpful information and may serve to defuse
>> some of the arguments on a number of “endorsement” related SGA Voting
>> threads - it also means that we, as Greens, can decide for ourselves where
>> we might want to endorse more than one candidate for an election or even
>> endorse just one candidate where more than one is running (as in your
>> Neo-Nazi Green example below).  Lotsa choice here, folks!
>>
>> Go Greens!
>>
>> Mimi Newton
>> Marin Greens
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:27 AM June Brashares <june.brashares at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If several racist nazis somehow decided to run as Greens, we could use
>>> this process to withhold endorsements, or even "Oppose" those candidates.
>>>
>>> Giving a candidate an endorsement allows the GPCA to promote endorsed
>>> candidates on the website etc....
>>>
>>> Since any citizen can go and register and run as a Green whether or not
>>> they agree with the Green 10 key values, it's good there's a way to
>>> identify all the candidates that should be promoted by the GPCA.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Gloria Purcell <
>>> gloria at extragalactic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I absolutely agree with Chris.  Selecting one is a horrible idea.
>>>> Divisive, political suicide.
>>>> We can use an endorsement as an acknowledgment of both candidates’
>>>> legitimacy in the eyes of the Party, if people want to go that way. That
>>>> way if we are horrified by a candidate, we can withhold an endorsement to
>>>> indicate that.   I personally prefer a Bylaw prohibiting endorsements of
>>>> candidates for any Primary.  Simple.
>>>> Gloria
>>>> > On Feb 16, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Chris <chris at bestofbroadway.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > This is a thread for Secretary of State,
>>>> >
>>>> > Having personally collected and submitted signatures for both
>>>> candidates in Sacramento, I advise endorsing both candidates for Secretary
>>>> of State.
>>>> >
>>>> > In order to accomplish growth in the party, those candidates need to
>>>> focus on their platforms and not attack one another. This weakens both
>>>> candidates before the primary election. The aggressor may experience
>>>> blowback for "going low" and inflicts libel upon their opponent.
>>>> >
>>>> > With that said, this is a top two. If the candidates coordinate, they
>>>> might generate enough interest in the Secretary of State race for CA voters
>>>> to put two greens in the general election. They are running against
>>>> unknowns and the scrutinised Alex Padilla.
>>>> >
>>>> > If Erik and Mike can smile wide enough, and Erik starts playing their
>>>> guitar on the campaign trail, we will see each candidate earn at least 2%
>>>> apiece.
>>>> >
>>>> > Of course, there is not an option to endorse all. So I recommend
>>>> voting against the bylaw interpretation that justifies the contest.
>>>> >
>>>> > My three cents,
>>>> > Chris Carlson
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:12 PM, GPCA Votes <gpca.votes at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Please send your discussion comments to gpca-votes at sfgreens.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Discussion has begun for the following GPCA SGA ranked choice vote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ranked Choice Vote ID        #147
>>>> >> Ranked Choice Vote: GPCA endorsement for Secretary of State
>>>> >> Number of Seats: 1
>>>> >> Ranked Choice Vote Administrators: Victoria Ashley, Brian Good,
>>>> Laura Wells, Eric Brooks, Mike Goldbeck
>>>> >> Discussion  02/12/2018 - 03/25/2018
>>>> >> Voting  03/26/2018 - 04/01/2018
>>>> >> Voting ends at Midnight Pacific Time
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The content of statewide races will depend on which candidates
>>>> officially qualify to be on the California June 2018 Primary Ballot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Full details will be available at: http://www.sjcgreens.org/sga_
>>>> vote_statewide_races
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please send your discussion comments to gpca-votes at sfgreens.org
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