March 2004 - Delegates

Details: Green Party state meeting this weekend
by Susan King 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

Hi all, here is everything you need to know about this weekends California Green Party meeting in SF. Thank you all for stepping up to help, this is going to be a busy and hopefully fun weekend. of course, if I forgot something, you can call me: 823-5524. Logistics: Venue: Friday Night Coordinating Committee (this is the state governing body of the party, they meet friday night to go over internal stuff) it is open to the public. Meets at SFGP 1028 A Howard Street from 7-10 Saturday and Sunday: CA state building, 350 Mc Allister St. directly across from the Civic Center. Transit: Civic Center BART, All Market St. Muni, garage across the street. Costs: $15 or $25 w/meals one day; $25 or $45 w/meals two day. Housing coordinator: Scott Stewart scott_stewart(a)mac.com Schedule: go to www.sfgreenparty.org to find CA state meeting link on front page. Saturday night event: Temple Bar 601 Polk Street. 8pm-12, Music and entertainment. $10 costs split with Matt G retire the debt effort. We need 4-5 volunteers to help take $ at the door. Volunteers: please let me know when you are showing up, so I know how many folks I have for each task. Volunteer shifts are below: Volunteer shift #1- 7:30-10:30: Registration: 4 -6 Volunteers needed for sign folks in and take payments. Registration starts at 8:00 am Saturday. We will have lists of registrants, delegates and lists of those who registered by need to pay. We will also sign in new people who have not registered. Carlos should be preparing the voter cards (laminated) to hand to each delegate, as well as name tags for all attendees. We will bring cash boxes, pens and other needed items to the venue at 7:30 am. Food Service: 2-3 volunteers needed for helping the caterer set up and check name tags for delegates who are on the meal plan (non meal plan folks can also eat, but we will ask that they make a donation since we have to pay $10 per person per day for food). Lionheart Catering will be bringing everything related to food service. Table Set up: 1-2 people to assist with setting up the vendor, candidate and Green party tables in the lobby. Mark Barnes is coordinating the tabling. I will confirm that we have tables for those who have requested space. Volunteer Shift #2: 10:30-1:00 Registration: 1-2 people to cover. Should have slowed down some, Food service: 2-3 people to help check for meal plan delegates, collect donations, and help with catering. Volunteer shift #3: 1-4 1-2 Registration: should be very light 1-2 Float, help where needed. Direct folks to workshop areas, pick up recycling. Volunteer shift #4: 4-6 Clean up mainly needed. Saturday night: Temple Bar help with sign in: 7:30-10:30. We need 4-6 people to rotate for coverage. Sunday: Volunteer Shift #6: 7:30-10:30 Registration: 3-4 folks to help with registration Food Service: 1-2 folks Volunteer shift #7: 10:30-1:00 Food service 2-3 folks Volunteer shift #8: 3-5 Clean up, we will need 7-10 folks to do a more thorough break down and pick up of the place.

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FW: Proposal from Conv.
by Susan King 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

all, here is an updated version of the presidential nominating proposal to be discussed this weekend. sk INTRODUCTION The proposal in the agenda packet for instructions to GPCA delegates to the Milwaukee 2004 GPUS Presidential Nominating Convention contains two different detailed procedures. To those of us working on this issue, it has become apparent that details about the convention presidential nomination voting process are uncertain and likely will remain unresolved during the March General Assembly. However, there are basic concepts and principles we can adopt at this time to get us moving in the right direction. If we can agree upon these, filling in any missing details will be much easier at the June General Assembly. We are modifying the proposal by asking you to make three decisions at this time. These are based on the proposals which were contained in the agenda packet -- so, we're not presenting radically different information from what you have already reviewed. Additionally, the earlier proposals did not address the issue of having NOTA (none of the above) and/or NOC (no other choice) on the convention ballot. These options did not appear on the state's primary election ballot so we do not know what the voters would have chosen if they had been provided these options. REVISED PROPOSALS FOR ADOPTION BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1. GPCA delegates to the GPUS nominating convention must be registered in the Green Party and have been eligible to vote in the March 2nd GPCA Primary Election. (Presenter: Susan King) 2. The GPCA delegates to the GPUS presidential nominating convention shall vote as a delegation in accordance with the March 2nd Primary Election results on the first ballot or first choice of ranking (i.e. proportionally with the voting results). (Presenter: Warner Bloomberg) 3. If the convention uses multi-round voting or ranked-ballot voting, the delegates shall caucus to discuss how GPCA votes additionally should be ranked or distributed and each delegate shall have individual authority to mark any paper ballot assigned to that individual delegate. (Presenter: Jim Stauffer) Jim Stauffer's additional comments -- There are two basic options for subsequent round votes: let the delegates decide at the convention, or let the GPCA decide and direct the delegates' votes before the convention. Delegates decide - Delegates should be representatives of the voters and use their judgment to estimate who the constituents of any given candidate would select as their subsequent choices. This also gives the delegates flexibility to deal with unforeseen issues that may come up at the convention. And it allows them to cast votes for NOTA or NOC. GPCA decides - Delegates may be subjected to influence and coercion to change their votes at the convention. Individual delegates may have personal agendas and decide not to follow the process agreed upon by the GPCA. These problems are minimized by directing the delegates' subsequent choices.

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yikes -one more delegate change...
by lia wilbourn 20 Mar '04

20 Mar '04

Sorry folks, I've got to work. After all that maneuvering I was just offered a job that I have to take, since times are tough and I'm doing on-call work right now, for the Sat. and Sun. mornings of the plenary. So, unfortunately, I can't be a delegate. I don't want to miss it and I'll try to make it there for some of it. Best, Lia >From: John-Marc Chandonia >To: delegates(a)sfgreens.org >Subject: [Delegates] another delegate change >Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:51:01 -0800 > >After the discussion last night (which Barbara was present for), >I got this message this morning: > >----- Forwarded message from Barbara Boice ----- >please inform the Green Party that I,Barbara Boice, >will can not be a delegate in this years state >convention. >----- End forwarded message ----- > >As Kim was a full delegate prior to our decision last night, >it would be simplest to put her back in the vacated "full >delegate" slot. Any concern about that? > >JMC >-- >John-Marc Chandonia (jmc(a)sfgreens.org) >http://www.dolorespark.org/ >_______________________________________________ >Delegates mailing list >Delegates(a)sfgreens.org >https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delegates _________________________________________________________________ [1]Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2731??PS=

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FW: (Draft) Revised GPUS Delegates Proposals
by Susan King 19 Mar '04

19 Mar '04

All, here is a revised, simplified version of the proposals that we will be discussing on Saturday at the SF Plenary. Personally, I favor having more individual delegate choice rather than having the GPCA direct our votes beyond the first round. Here's the intro and proposals, please review: To All Involved: Below is draft text for revised proposals to present to the General Assembly on the subject of GPUS delegates eligibility and voting. These were developed from the teleconference and additional material I received by email from Jim Stauffer. Jim's content did not include an express proposal, so I wrote the # 3. that follows. Jim wrote the introduction and comments after # 3., but I have edited his text for what I believe is ,clarity without damage to the message. (Jim may disagree.) Jim's initial text referred to # 2. and # 3. as general concepts. I disagree with this perspective. My view is that we would be proposing binding decisions for the General Assembly to make at the March 27-28th plenary and that any changes would require further GA decision. I agree with Jim's comments that # 3. contemplates the possibility of NOTA or NOC votes at the Milwaukee convention, and I agree that, given the lateness of GPUS rules for the convention and the very real controversies about NOTA, Nader, etc., flexibility for multiple ballot or ranked voting scenarios is the only way we can hope to reach consensus among the GPCA delegates. If we have consensus about this draft for revised proposals, the next step would be to promptly communicate this text via a County Contacts email and to make sure paper copies are available at the registration table in San Francisco. Who does these? Warner (3/18/04) ======================================== To the GPCA General Assembly March 27-28, 2004 >From the Ad-Hoc Committee on GPUS Convention Delegates INTRODUCTION The proposal in the agenda packet for instructions to GPCA delegates to the Milwaukee 2004 GPUS Presidential Nominating Convention contains two different detailed procedures. To those of us working on this issue, it has become apparent that details about the convention presidential nomination voting process are uncertain and likely will remain unresolved during the March General Assembly. However, there are basic concepts and principles we can adopt at this time to get us moving in the right direction. If we can agree upon these, filling in any missing details will be much easier at the June General Assembly. We are modifying the proposal by asking you to make three decisions at this time. These are based on the proposals which were contained in the agenda packet -- so, we're not presenting radically different information from what you have already reviewed. Additionally, the earlier proposals did not address the issue of having NOTA (none of the above) and/or NOC (no other choice) on the convention ballot. These options did not appear on the state's primary election ballot so we do not know what the voters would have chosen if they had been provided these options. REVISED PROPOSALS FOR ADOPTION BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1. GPCA delegates to the GPUS nominating convention must be registered in the Green Party and have been eligible to vote in the March 2nd GPCA Primary Election. (Presenter: Susan King) 2. The GPCA delegates to the GPUS presidential nominating convention shall vote as a delegation in accordance with the March 2nd Primary Election results on the first ballot or first choice of ranking (i.e. proportionally with the voting results). (Presenter: Warner Bloomberg) 3. If the convention uses multi-round voting or ranked-ballot voting, the delegates shall caucus to discuss how GPCA votes additionally should be ranked or distributed and each delegate shall have individual authority to mark any paper ballot assigned to that individual delegate. (Presenter: Jim Stauffer) Jim Stauffer's additional comments -- There are two basic options: let the delegates decide at the convention, or let the GPCA decide and direct the delegates' votes before the convention. Delegates decide - Delegates should be representatives of the voters and use their judgment to estimate who the constituents of any given candidate would select as their subsequent choices. This also gives the delegates flexibility to deal with unforeseen issues that may come up at the convention. And it allows them to cast votes for NOTA or NOC. GPCA decides - Delegates may be subjected to influence and coercion to change their votes at the convention. Individual delegates may have personal agendas and decide not to follow the process agreed upon by the GPCA. These problems are minimized by directing the delegates' subsequent choices.

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discussion on presidential options
by Susan King 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

Hi, At last night's Green general meeting we discussed two options that are being presented to the CA Green delegates regarding how our 132 delegates to the national nominating convention will be obligated to vote. While the SF Green Party did not take a position on either of the two proposals, it appears likely that the CA Greens will choose to 'bind' (require delegates to vote a certain way) CA delegates to the national to vote in proportion with the CA election results from the March Primary. In this case, the only options for CA delegates to the national IN THE FIRST ROUND will be to vote for one of the four candidates on the CA ballot. The debate continues about how CA Greens will vote in subsequent rounds of voting at the nominating convention. Therefore, the SF delegates to the CA meeting on March 27-28 will be free to chose whichever proposal they would like. It is highly likely that the proposals will be amended. At last night's meeting we consensed to include negotiations to add None of the Above (NOTA) to either modified proposal. In any case, these negotiations do not include any language about Ralph Nader or a preference for a presidential candidate who is a registered Green. The issue to be discussed in March in SF is to decide HOW each delegate will vote, not for whom specifically. In conclusion, no one will be compelled to "vote for Nader" at the state meeting, nor at the national meeting. I hope this clears up any confusion about what we decided (or didn't) at last night's meeting. peace, susan

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another delegate change
by John-Marc Chandonia 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

After the discussion last night (which Barbara was present for), I got this message this morning: ----- Forwarded message from Barbara Boice <bboice02(a)yahoo.com> ----- please inform the Green Party that I,Barbara Boice, will can not be a delegate in this years state convention. ----- End forwarded message ----- As Kim was a full delegate prior to our decision last night, it would be simplest to put her back in the vacated "full delegate" slot. Any concern about that? JMC -- John-Marc Chandonia (jmc(a)sfgreens.org) http://www.dolorespark.org/

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Re: [Delegates] RE: CA Green state meeting in SF: schedule
by funking＠mindspring.com 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

I got the title of the Environmental Justice workshop from Don, and is written as he suggested it. Go ahead and change yours to whatever you'd like. I don't recall getting your origninal email suggesting the titles below, however. thanks, susan -----Original Message----- From: Frontlines newspaper Sent: Mar 15, 2004 8:01 PM To: funking(a)mindspring.com, Steven Hill , 'Green Staff' , 'Larisa Casillas' , 'June Brashares' , 'Nancy Marmol' , 'Caleb Kleppner' , 'Janet Nudelman' , 'Dave Snyder' , 'Kimberly Knox' , 'brando james' , delegates(a)sfgreens.org, 'Michael Bornstein' , 'Peggy Lewis' , 'Jim Stauffer' , 'Craig Peterson' , 'Sharon Peterson' , 'Gerry Gras' , 'Don Eichelberger' Subject: Re: [Delegates] RE: CA Green state meeting in SF: schedule Not really. I asked you to name the workshops on "Non-Citizens voting rights: Historical precedents...etcetera" and the "Bayview Hunters Point: showcasing an African American Community on Energy and Environmental Justice..." and then, they appeared on your schedule with different names. I have no problem with the organizers of the workshops to title them, that's precisely what we should do. Now we have Steven's an the other two workshop correct titles, if the others have no changes, it's fine with me. Carlos funking(a)mindspring.com wrote: Carlos, the titles of the events are exactly what the presenters asked me to call them, except for Steve's. Please check with me before you re title anything, since most of the presenters have provided me with the titles that they feel best represents their workshops. Thanks, susan -----Original Message----- From: Frontlines newspaper Sent: Mar 15, 2004 1:33 PM To: Steven Hill , 'Susan King' , 'Green Staff' , 'Larisa Casillas' , 'June Brashares' , 'Nancy Marmol' , 'Caleb Kleppner' , 'Janet Nudelman' , 'Dave Snyder' , 'Kimberly Knox' , 'brando james' , delegates(a)sfgreens.org, 'Michael Bornstein' , 'Peggy Lewis' , 'Jim Stauffer' , 'Craig Peterson' , 'Sharon Peterson' , 'Gerry Gras' , 'Don Eichelberger' Subject: Re: [Delegates] RE: CA Green state meeting in SF: schedule Yes, all the workshop titles are unattractive and most do not reflect the content. Since I'm working on the leaflet and e-mail to promote them, I would suggest those organizing the workshops send me or to this list the right titles. I already took note of Steven's title for his. Carlos Steven Hill <shill(a)fairvote.org> wrote: One correction to the agenda. For the IRV workshop in the Sat 1-2 pm slot, it would be best if the title of the IRV workshop was changed to reflect that this is an ORGANIZING workshop, about how to work to get IRV in your local area. It is NOT a workshop about "what is IRV", ABCs of IRV, etc. I would suggest a title more like the following: "Organizing workshop: How to win Instant Runoff Voting in your local area": Steven Hill, Center for Voting and Democracy Read the latest issue of Frontlines at [1]http://www.sf-frontlines.com Local, National and International political news and commentaries. Read the latest issue of Frontlines at [2]http://www.sf-frontlines.com Local, National and International political news and commentaries. References 1. http://www.sf-frontlines.com/ 2. http://www.sf-frontlines.com/

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Re: [Delegates] RE: CA Green state meeting in SF: schedule
by funking＠mindspring.com 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Carlos, the titles of the events are exactly what the presenters asked me to call them, except for Steve's. Please check with me before you re title anything, since most of the presenters have provided me with the titles that they feel best represents their workshops. Thanks, susan -----Original Message----- From: Frontlines newspaper Sent: Mar 15, 2004 1:33 PM To: Steven Hill , 'Susan King' , 'Green Staff' , 'Larisa Casillas' , 'June Brashares' , 'Nancy Marmol' , 'Caleb Kleppner' , 'Janet Nudelman' , 'Dave Snyder' , 'Kimberly Knox' , 'brando james' , delegates(a)sfgreens.org, 'Michael Bornstein' , 'Peggy Lewis' , 'Jim Stauffer' , 'Craig Peterson' , 'Sharon Peterson' , 'Gerry Gras' , 'Don Eichelberger' Subject: Re: [Delegates] RE: CA Green state meeting in SF: schedule Yes, all the workshop titles are unattractive and most do not reflect the content. Since I'm working on the leaflet and e-mail to promote them, I would suggest those organizing the workshops send me or to this list the right titles. I already took note of Steven's title for his. Carlos Steven Hill <shill(a)fairvote.org> wrote: One correction to the agenda. For the IRV workshop in the Sat 1-2 pm slot, it would be best if the title of the IRV workshop was changed to reflect that this is an ORGANIZING workshop, about how to work to get IRV in your local area. It is NOT a workshop about "what is IRV", ABCs of IRV, etc. I would suggest a title more like the following: "Organizing workshop: How to win Instant Runoff Voting in your local area": Steven Hill, Center for Voting and Democracy Read the latest issue of Frontlines at [1]http://www.sf-frontlines.com Local, National and International political news and commentaries. References 1. http://www.sf-frontlines.com/

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Re: [Delegates] Green Party Plenary delegates
by funking＠mindspring.com 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

We also only get 2 alternates, not an even no of delegates and alternates. We get an even no. of del and alt at the national meeting. sk -----Original Message----- From: John-Marc Chandonia <jmc(a)sfgreens.org> Sent: Mar 15, 2004 5:53 PM To: delegates(a)sfgreens.org Subject: Re: [Delegates] Green Party Plenary delegates Thanks. I've added Terry to this list; Kim was already on it. We get 12 delegates to the US convention (who we haven't picked yet), but only 9 to the plenary. We therefore need to move several people from delegate to alternate, which will need GM approval at this week's meeting. If anybody else doesn't care if they're a delegate or an alternate, let us know; otherwise, we'll discuss it at this week's GM. On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 02:27:47PM -0800, June Brashares wrote: > We thought SF got 12 delegates when we selected our delegates at the last > General Meeting. > Here's the complete list of 12! delegates from the meeting notes from the > last General Membership meeting: > (sorry if I spelled any names wrong -- please let me know) > > Delegates: > 1. Terry Baum > 2. Barbara Boice > 3. Chris Finn > 4. Berta Hernandez > 5. Susan King > 6. Kim Knox > 7. Caty Powell > 8. Paul Quick > 9. Dan Strickland > 10. Lia Wilbourn > 11. Sloan Wilson > 12. Pierre Fraysse (but he has now requested an alternate take his place) > > > Alternates: > 1. June Brashares > 2. Don Eichelberger > 3. Caleb Kleppner > 4. Ross Mirkarimi > 5. Carlos Petroni > 6. Phil Willke -- John-Marc Chandonia (jmc(a)sfgreens.org) http://www.dolorespark.org/ _______________________________________________ Delegates mailing list Delegates(a)sfgreens.org https://list.sfgreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delegates

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Green Party Plenary delegates
by John-Marc Chandonia 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Hi, I've created a mailing list, delegates(a)sfgreens.org for delegates and alternates to the state plenary to use to communicate with each other. This list will be recycled some time after the plenary. I'm not a delegate or alternate, but I am SF's representative to the GPCA's coordinating committee, so I'm here to answer any questions you have and provide info you need. The first things you should look at are on the plenary website: http://cagreens.org/plenary/. You should register online as soon as possible at this site. Don't worry about submitting the delegate list; I'll do that. You should download both the agenda packet and meeting file, and print out a copy for yourself or arrange to share one. You will need a password to get the packet; use "gpca" for the user name and "10greatyears" for the password. This is the current list I have of delegates and alternates; if I've spelled your name wrong let me know: Delegates: Sloan Wilson Dan Strickland Susan King Caty Powell Paul Quick Chris Finn Lia Wilbourne Barbara Boice Pierre Fraysse Alternates: June Brashares Ross Mirkarimi Don Eichelberger Carlos Petroni Phil Willkie Caleb Kleppner JMC -- John-Marc Chandonia (jmc(a)sfgreens.org) http://www.dolorespark.org/

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